i think the USSR did pretty ok despite their circumstances

The ussr was not a good thing it was only good when lenin was there and even then it still was far from the paradise you want

Nazi Germany didnt even last more than 12 years

Due to losing a war

nazi germany also didnt want to deal with the surrender of its nation

@WaitFor(You) Yhea, just put aside the mass starvations, genocide and poverty that happened, and everything is fine.

Communism after its collapse will ruin everything

Soviet union collapsed on it's own

Nazi Germany did have the three most powerful nations in the world at the time going after it in a war that cost millions of lives

so they fought to destruction

if i cant get food into my country and people starve

what a novel concept

All counties who had it go to a road of hell

yeah but germany could have lost some spoils of war to get a surrender

The USSR is large enough to feed itself

Sounds like that's why the Berlin Airlift happened

Russia doesnt have alot of resources

It ruins the people

most of it is wasteland

russia does

since the Soviets wouldn't let food into West Berlin and people starved

plenty of them

and the neighboring countries dont really have much agricultural resources either

@WaitFor(You) Hmm... yet you own the majority of europe, and are the largest country in the world, why still can't you feed your population?

That is true Russia has a shit ton of crude oil and gas

water, ariable land, material

>Ukraine

the US is full of fertile farmland

theres so much food there

they lack the birthrate to use all of it

Half the recourses are not even seen

thats why everyone is fat

As is Eastern Europe

everybody is fat because of values

not because of the food produced

its both

@WaitFor(You) And that is not to say that eastern europe cannot produce shit?

Eastern Europe is not barren

theres alot of cheap food

Also communism doesn't work if it collapses it means it doesn't work

and the values of america include gorging yourself on cheap processed food