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In the context that he is a leftist and marxist socialist before, but this is another attempt to derail the question, so let's go back.
How do you know that workers have to own the factories, in order for it to be socialist?
if they don't that means its private property and not socialist
How do you know?
You clearly don't, do you?
Sorel, Bakunin, Strasser, Codreanu
to name non marxists
Kim il Sung
Cordreanu believed in legionaireism, something I doubt you know anything about.
and yes a good friend of mine is a romanian fash
And, you are only giving me a list of non marxists, nothing that confirms your belief.
non marxists that would agree that private property is capitalist
you're grasping at straws
That is quite the generalization there.
And, I would disagree with you.
clerical fascism, italian, falange etc
were all derived from sorel
Sorel is what turned mussolini away from the reds
I don't think evola or mousillini even mentioned sorel in their interviews.
Mussolini went to Sorels funeral
Sorel approved of mussolini for his syndicalist views
Didn't hitler attend some of the RAF funerals?
Cultured Thug did a whole presentation on Sorel and his link to fascism
So in that case, woulden't he be fascist?
Sorel is often considered a proto-fascist
but he's a weird one he'd go back and forth from being an ansyn to natsyn
Okay? If he was ultimately considered a fascist and a national syndicalist, then why would you even cite him as a socialist?
because syndicalism is a form of socialism
>Falangists destroy CNT FAI
>Mousillini purges communists and anarchists
because they were'nt the same kind of socialists
By that definition, WW2 was leftist infighting.
and radically different views on social issues
Fascism is not a left or right worldview
Now hold on, there is no way that a socialist would be somebody like cordreanu, or mousillini, because, they fight for both their race, and nation, and an economy that benefits the NATION.
their economies were syndicalist
de facto socialism
So you call it socialist, but in reality it is just yours by claim?
its not marxist socialism