by anyone thats not some asshole berniecrat or a hitlerite

abolition of private property/workers own the means of production

So you don't know.

well you ask 10 people with 10 different political identies you'll get more than a handful of different answers

but to anyone who identifies as a socialist but not a hitlerite it will be along those lines

And how do you separate the true definition from them?

obviously the people who know their shit

And so do I, and I call myself a socialist.

Wow, google, what a good source.

and i bet you'd call syndicalism a jooish invention as well

you can't have private property and socialism at the same time

N"S" germany had private property

Nope, if I did, I would be calling the falange and franco jews.

not socialism

How do you know that?

oh i've seeen it before

alt retards

and no

What?

You don't know it?

franco wasn't a syndicalist he betrayed the falange

True, but the falange also supported franco at first, but this is an attempt to set me off track, so let's get back to the original topic.

Ask any none Hitlerist in this server if Hitler was a socialist everyone will tell you no

In the context that he is a leftist and marxist socialist before, but this is another attempt to derail the question, so let's go back.

How do you know that workers have to own the factories, in order for it to be socialist?

if they don't that means its private property and not socialist

How do you know?

You clearly don't, do you?

Sorel, Bakunin, Strasser, Codreanu

to name non marxists

Kim il Sung

Cordreanu believed in legionaireism, something I doubt you know anything about.

clerical fascism

and yes a good friend of mine is a romanian fash

And, you are only giving me a list of non marxists, nothing that confirms your belief.

non marxists that would agree that private property is capitalist

you're grasping at straws

That is quite the generalization there.

And, I would disagree with you.

clerical fascism, italian, falange etc