Message from @Builderelf

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2018-02-03 18:49:21 UTC  

>stalin and mao

2018-02-03 18:49:23 UTC  

>pretty cool

2018-02-03 18:50:05 UTC  

alright,ignore how they killed the most humans in history

2018-02-03 18:55:54 UTC  

I agree @Deleted User that they had some pretty bad authoritarianism, as an Anarchist I see that as pretty bad. But I think their achievenments were pretty cool, not necessarily themselves.

2018-02-03 19:00:44 UTC  

also @Shwiani, Stalin mainly killed Kulaks (which is good) and some anarchists (which is bad),but most humans in history? far from it. The statistic that says "Communism Killed 100 Million people" is an exaggeration from the Black Book of Communism, which concluded it was 94 million. The source itself was exaggerated too. In fact, the publishers of the Black Book of Communism went back and said that they greatly exagerrated their sources to drive up the numbers! For instance, they considered anybody arrested to be "a death under communism". Furthermore, the population of Russia actually INCREASED during stalin's reign from 1922-1952, from 120 million to 140 million. If 20 million were supposedly "killed under communism", then wouldn't that population increase in fact be a DECREASE? And on the topic of famines, the industrialization policies under Stalin and Mao actually ENDED famines in their respective countries-- famines which plagued the nations for hundreds of years.

2018-02-03 19:01:03 UTC  

So to say that "they killed the most humans in history" is a capitalist lie

2018-02-03 19:01:16 UTC  

Now do I agree with Stalin and Mao?

2018-02-03 19:01:55 UTC  

No, I think industrialization and re-militarization of thier nations could esaily be achieved under Anarchism, without resorting to Totalitarianism.

2018-02-03 19:02:22 UTC  

But that doesn't mean I should whine and say they were big meanies that killed a hundred quadrillion people

2018-02-03 19:09:59 UTC  

kulaks were assholes, but that doesn't justify killing them

2018-02-03 19:10:37 UTC  

eh, i dont mind that stalin gulaged the filthy grain horders

2018-02-03 19:10:50 UTC  

and the nazis deserved what they got in ww2

2018-02-03 19:10:59 UTC  

everything else however, stalin wasn't justified in doing

2018-02-03 19:11:01 UTC  

yeah

2018-02-03 19:13:12 UTC  

what do you think about "holodomor"? Genocide or simply bad weather conditions and incompetency?

2018-02-03 19:13:49 UTC  

anarchism

2018-02-03 19:14:05 UTC  

I think that holodomor was a combination of bad weather conditions and bueacratic incompetency.

2018-02-03 19:14:45 UTC  

For instance, the soviet regime sold a lot of their grain mostly to buy machine parts for industrialization, which eventually got the food situation under control but for the time being only increased the levels of starvation.

2018-02-03 19:15:03 UTC  

yeah

2018-02-03 19:15:25 UTC  

I also don't think it could've been a genocide, because it mostly effected peasants. There is no way in hell that I could believe that Joseph Stalin would lead a genocide to KILL PEASANTS.

2018-02-03 19:15:51 UTC  

The entire communist ideology is based around PROTECTING the peasants, and Stalin was and alwasy has been a die-hard communist

2018-02-03 19:16:06 UTC  

hell, he read up on communism very extently in his university days

2018-02-03 19:16:27 UTC  

yeah

2018-02-03 19:16:34 UTC  

and in an interview one of his bodygaurds said that he went out of his way to give people waiting for their late bus one day rides to their location

2018-02-03 19:16:36 UTC  

he's given plenty of lectures at universities too

2018-02-03 19:16:38 UTC  

he drove them himself

2018-02-03 19:16:43 UTC  

that too

2018-02-03 19:17:13 UTC  

so I don't agree with the very liberal view of history that says "Stalin was a big meanie that just wanted power and corrupted the soviet union with genocides and bad stuff"

2018-02-03 19:17:30 UTC  

also I like your pfp. BREAK THE CHAINS

2018-02-03 19:17:30 UTC  

sure he had some imperialistic aspects to him, and he had some questionable choices at times

2018-02-03 19:17:35 UTC  

but he's still my comreade

2018-02-03 19:17:38 UTC  

thanks bro

2018-02-03 19:18:15 UTC  

direct rule from london

2018-02-03 19:18:19 UTC  

cant use caps apparently

2018-02-03 19:18:30 UTC  

huh

2018-02-03 19:18:33 UTC  

it let me use caps

2018-02-03 19:19:06 UTC  

thats because half your sentence was lowercase, the entirety of my sentence was uppercase

2018-02-03 19:19:20 UTC  

ah

2018-02-03 19:19:28 UTC  

so "direct rule FROM LONDON" works

2018-02-03 19:19:37 UTC  

but not "DIRECT RULE FROM LONDON" I'm afraid

2018-02-03 19:19:47 UTC  

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