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No, we already decided we were using terms wrong, or atleast in a manner that isnt consistent.

Its just you're not a leftist, outside of any liberal democracy.

okay good, I don't mind if I'm liberal not leftist, my views are unchanged

Yes, but you see the confusion, you said im a nationalist socialist "democrat"

Or a "nationalist social democrat"

Either way neither make sense right off the bat unless a context is clarified

yeah it's hard to clarify context in three words

Which is why you probably dont want 3 words

People who have lists of shit to qualify what they think they are, are redundant or dont know what they're talking about

if I need to quickly explain my views I'll tend to do something like that

Yea, just, you're a Social Democrat lol

You're a bernie bro

Lol

Which is still liberal, and capitalist, so you're free to take more of a national stance without calling yourself a nationalist.

Sure, I was making the distinction between what I believed on nationhood vs the anti-nationhood beliefs common in much leftist discourse. This is an important point to note as I was clearly dealing with /pol/ with whom this is an important topic

as there is democratic socialism, you can very well be a socialist democrat, and a nationalist on top of that

Yea well if you're a aocial democrat your belief in a state isnt in question lol

So not necessary

oy i woke up did the commies came?

not social democrat

theres a commie here

socialIST democrat

Ive been here

And

Was responding to other dude

Just slow

With one hand

I think socialists tend to believe in hard revolution, that any capitalist state regardless of left wing political sympathy is just in the way of actual socialism

@dopeblizz why should there be less food in socialism

famine boiii

why does socialism cause famines?

Nope not all socialists believe in hard revolution, sadly enough.

But also

I already linked in the chat

The reality of environments and the third world/global south under capitalism

News flash,

There are famines...

Let me do it again