Message from @Lucas 4313

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2018-02-25 01:11:59 UTC  

kulaks had it coming

2018-02-25 01:12:03 UTC  

Haha yes lets just allow the people who want to remove us from power to freely roam

2018-02-25 01:12:09 UTC  

Im sure that will never go sour

2018-02-25 01:12:17 UTC  

this guy gets it

2018-02-25 01:12:43 UTC  

My problem with Stalinism (or Vanguardism, really) is the fact that revisionists almost immediately came in after Stalin's death; too much power is placed in one group when it should be placed on the masses as a whole (Platformism)

2018-02-25 01:13:00 UTC  

and i guess the makhnovians were also counter-revolutionaries.
the hungarians were counter-revolutionaries.
everyone i don't like is a counter-revolutionary

2018-02-25 01:13:23 UTC  

makhno literally was and so were the hungarians they literally fought the red army

2018-02-25 01:13:32 UTC  

but on rushack

2018-02-25 01:13:48 UTC  

Also the Anarchist revolution in Spain were also purging themselves of counter-revolutionaries

2018-02-25 01:14:01 UTC  

the anarchist were the counter revolutionaries

2018-02-25 01:14:04 UTC  

they broke away

2018-02-25 01:14:38 UTC  

Look up anything about the Spanish Civil War that focuses on the Anarchists and you never hear the end of "muh churches", "muh dead nuns", "muh landowners"

2018-02-25 01:15:10 UTC  

they fought for the liberation of the proletariat, but with different approaches, but i guess that constitutes being counter-revolutionary.
and i guess capitulating to the state makes you a revolutionary

2018-02-25 01:15:15 UTC  

Didn't Lenin personally have no real problem with Makhno?

2018-02-25 01:15:40 UTC  

makhno is the most respectable anarchist, but I still strongly disagree with him and he does not deserve any power

2018-02-25 01:15:45 UTC  

trotsky killed makhnovia, in all honesty

2018-02-25 01:15:46 UTC  

Lenin did

2018-02-25 01:16:10 UTC  

Trotsky convinced him he was a threat though but told him he was useful for now

2018-02-25 01:16:14 UTC  

then he fucking killed him lol

2018-02-25 01:17:07 UTC  

in the tankies' collective mindset, capitulating to the state is REVOLUTIONARY

2018-02-25 01:17:34 UTC  

they were fighting a civil war

2018-02-25 01:17:36 UTC  

with many factions

2018-02-25 01:17:42 UTC  

Can we talk about Holodomor yet?

2018-02-25 01:17:45 UTC  

any factions that is not yours wish to userp yours

2018-02-25 01:17:48 UTC  

and is a threat

2018-02-25 01:18:13 UTC  

Without Makhno, Ukraine would have probably had a more prominent counter-revolutionary movement tbh

2018-02-25 01:18:34 UTC  

ukraine alone could not stand to the red army no matter which way you put it

2018-02-25 01:18:48 UTC  

not much would change with or without the anarchist

2018-02-25 01:18:55 UTC  

they lose in every situation

2018-02-25 01:19:23 UTC  

because EVERYONE is trying to kill them.
BIG SURPRISE

2018-02-25 01:19:34 UTC  

yeah

2018-02-25 01:19:43 UTC  

How might you explain the failure of ML movements later in the 20th century?

2018-02-25 01:20:10 UTC  

NATO and modern technology

2018-02-25 01:20:30 UTC  

you couldnt just fly over to Russia and send tons of equipment in

2018-02-25 01:20:33 UTC  

things were slower

2018-02-25 01:20:36 UTC  

honestly, that

2018-02-25 01:20:51 UTC  

nato is a bunch of cocksuckers

2018-02-25 01:20:59 UTC  

atleast we can agree on that

2018-02-25 01:21:01 UTC  

nato triple gay

2018-02-25 01:29:19 UTC  

if holodomor was about the kulaks, i don't exactly have sympathy for them. but maybe killing was going to far. simply expropriating the expropriators (maybe exiling them) and stopping there would have been nicer

2018-02-25 01:33:06 UTC  

give that land to the people and not the state