Ok, im a social democrat, im curious to hear your perspective on communism and the soviet union. Convince me, lol.

Well like what are some of your views on it? @BADDOG

I really appreciate the Communist Manifesto criticisms of capitalism and I agree with them there, but I dont believe in the communist economic system of collectivozing every sector of the economy or the equal distribution of the means and goods of production.

Might I ask why Baddog?

Also I am sorta new to communist theory (been one for a year) but could answer some questions you have

@Skull-Dude well here's my stance. I believe in private ownership and the potential of the individual, but im not a complete individualist, for example some government operated companies are good along sode private ones, I also believe in universal college, healthcare, and increasing funding for other social programs. I think both individualism and collectivism have there place in the economy. I dont believe in equal distribution for work thats not equal and that private comptetion generally helps with standard of living and technological advancement.

Well if you look at the two major Socialist Nations (Maoist China and the USSR before becoming revisionist without Stalin) both saw great leaps in technology and standard of living. Both nations saw a significant increase in the quality of life by the fact Infant mortality dropped, literacy rates increased, and industrialization was expanded and the ending of famine (Name one famine after "Holodomor" and the Great Chinese Famine, both of which were due to weather conditions and rebelious, unpurged bourgeoisie)

Also the main reason "The West" is as prosperous is due to Colonization and Exploitation of the Third World

I agree that capitalism can gain from exploitation of third world countries, but I would argue that its the private competition that provides to motivation to create something new, private companies build off their competition modifying what they've done trying to make it better. Additionally I dont think a capitalist economy is inherently imperialist. You could even argue that some countries such as the Latin American ones would've have gotten as far as they did if it werent for capitalism and western influence. Looking at other historical examples such as Korea and Germany also show the comparison of each system. And communist nations also have there fair share of exploitation. In Eastern Europe with stalin promising "free elections" to the United States when really just using salami tactics to instill soviet control and take advantage of its resources. The Soviet Union tried exploiting Afghanistan as well.

Communism bad America good

Who’s moderating this discord?

me

What's up?

No i am the mod

DAE wish we had more dog whistles so we could find each other without revealing our power level?

ahh

Just talk about workers rights uwu

did ulp split again or is this something else

I was randomly invited here by some guy in an IWW server

same, I think I've been here before though

yeah i have

We split from unofficial leftypol 4 splits before. We split from original leftypol which died. Now it was recovered and destroyed 3 times already

@Ladle @Treble

hmm

yeah i remember this place

Fuggin Trotskyists.

Our leftypol is the only one which persists from original

it's the only split that's alive, other than the local inn

We're also the only one that is against splitters and for unification of all leftypols

In fact we're for mutual support https://twitter.com/leftypol_int

Hot take: mailing lists are underrated as an organization tool and social media platform.

What is going on

The something internationale was the big split one, it changed servers for some reason, and renamed itself 12 times, until it settled on The Local Inn <:GWaobloChildPepeShrug:407618817569718272>

Is of the third split

They've been against unification

eh

Just some kids playing

as I see it

i think they've just forgot, its just a casual philosophy discussion hole now

I'm probably still banned there