Message from @DOg

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2019-08-02 19:12:18 UTC  

and the US was never a Pakistani ally. The Afghans would very much like for the us to 'abandon' them.

2019-08-02 19:12:19 UTC  

They buy both American and Russian. If America totally threw Pakistan under the bus they could lean to the U.S

2019-08-02 19:13:28 UTC  

They bought Russian S-400's? Pretty much their entire Air Force consists of Russian-manufactured airplanes.

2019-08-02 19:14:14 UTC  

And India has already bought a Russian Aircraft Carrier too.

2019-08-02 19:14:30 UTC  

They are a failed state. The us should fully support India in the Kashmir issue and embargo China but not India to undermine China and win over India. And on your point India do but some American. There a regional powerhouse so they don’t need to be a puppet of anyone

2019-08-02 19:15:01 UTC  

>regional powerhouse

2019-08-02 19:15:01 UTC  

>india

2019-08-02 19:15:15 UTC  

If you were the Indian government with American bases in Pakistan you would buy Russian. It’s the sensible thing to do

2019-08-02 19:15:56 UTC  

By 2030 India’s population will overtake China. A few decades after that it’s likely their GDP will too

2019-08-02 19:16:45 UTC  

>The us should fully support India in the Kashmir issue and embargo China but not India to undermine China and win over India.

Ehh, not gonna happen. The issue is strictly between Pakistan and India, an accord (Simla agreement) was signed back in the 1970s. China? Maybe, but that's only due to the nation's proximity.

2019-08-02 19:17:10 UTC  

So yeah, a bilateral issue.

2019-08-02 19:18:00 UTC  

I know The is won’t do it but it would be the smart thing to do. Although I have to say my bad on this one. We should have had a religiously secular state of the raj

2019-08-02 19:18:23 UTC  

So for that I’ll swallow my pride that was Britain’s fault

2019-08-02 19:19:39 UTC  

>By 2030 India’s population will overtake China. A few decades after that it’s likely their GDP will too
Unlikely, China's GDP is much larger and India's growth rate is not going to be enough to match China.

2019-08-02 19:20:21 UTC  

>By 2030 India’s population will overtake China. A few decades after that it’s likely their GDP will too

False. India will never overtake China. All indicators point towards a slowing/stagnant India. A study done by an Indian advisor to Modi has found that Indian government has exaggerated their economic growth. A 3-4% annual growth is more exact, not the 7% figure given by the Indian government.

2019-08-02 19:20:52 UTC  

Even with those exaggerated figures in mind, India is no longer the fastest growing economy.

2019-08-02 19:21:12 UTC  

China’s economy is based on a primary and secondary economy. As it westernises company’s costs will rise. We saw it in the USA. They will move from China to India

2019-08-02 19:21:21 UTC  

Its economics

2019-08-02 19:21:33 UTC  

Holy fucking shit. Big news.

2019-08-02 19:21:54 UTC  

The UK* and France overtook them.

2019-08-02 19:22:11 UTC  

as per the recent figures released by the World Bank

2019-08-02 19:22:34 UTC  

Well GDP does fluctuate. We are nearing a global recession so a flicker in the chart doesn’t mean that much

2019-08-02 19:22:56 UTC  

Also the US was always ahead of India

2019-08-02 19:23:02 UTC  

They never came close

2019-08-02 19:23:12 UTC  

I think you mean the UK

2019-08-02 19:23:20 UTC  

GDP doesn't fluctuate by that much

2019-08-02 19:24:07 UTC  

Well India is transitioning from a primary to a secondary economy. There will naturally be teething troubles

2019-08-02 19:24:16 UTC  

And the major consumer countries would most likely show signs of a recession first.

2019-08-02 19:25:56 UTC  

China outstrips India in terms of primary economy.

2019-08-02 19:26:17 UTC  

We’re in a leftypol group for god sake so you should know best. When costs rises companies save costs. If that means moving they’ll do it. When costs rise in China they will naturally move to India. It’s the second biggest country in Asia

2019-08-02 19:26:37 UTC  

For now. China has had a bit of a head start on India

2019-08-02 19:27:36 UTC  

India has had internal religious troubles and war with Pakistan

2019-08-02 19:29:25 UTC  

>When costs rise in China they will naturally move to India.


That's not what companies are there for. Labour costs in China have almost doubled in the last 10 years, yet companies still have yet to relocate -- why's that? It's because of the pure amount of qualified Chinese workers available.

2019-08-02 19:30:19 UTC  

For a company like Apple? They won't relocate for the foreseeable future. For companies like Nike? They have mostly migrated to South-East Asia, to countries like Thailand and Vietnam.

2019-08-02 19:30:27 UTC  

@DOg i would like to take the time to say it’s nice to talk to someone in a balanced and sensible manner. Thank you for this conversation. And about your point the workers will move too and there is a tipping point

2019-08-02 19:30:48 UTC  

And I’m talking in the next 10-30 year

2019-08-02 19:31:05 UTC  

Anything is possible in 30 years.

2019-08-02 19:31:45 UTC  

As a Pakistani what’s your opinion on two things. One Pakistan’s new president?

2019-08-02 19:32:12 UTC  

@DOg and two cricket