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Believing in a communist society has the same merit as believing in an Aryan supernation, their theories cannot come to fruition because they are not based in reality. Dialectical materialism is a poor way to describe history because it doesn't account for a plethora of other factors that cause history to ebb and flow

how does dialects not account for the other factors

dialects considers every factor in the progression of society

Religion, weather, social norms etc. Dialectics only refers to the class structure, in terms of marxism

Organization of an economic system can in theory be changed and succeed

danny

please

let me take this

However this loose nonsense idea of Aryans and racial superiority is nothing more than wishful thinking

That is all

No, historical materialism is a thing as well. Historical materialism considers all of these things interconnected, all of each of these factors exist as a factor of the progression of history, for example we can see religion is changed through the social conditions of the time, social norms are the largest determining factor in many of these. Also how does weather have anything to do with economic progression wtf? History is not a progression of accidents. We see that dialectically as I have already stated these things are factors as well, we see these factors usually shift off of the social conditions, which is determined by the economic conditions. As Stalin says on the interconnectivity of nature; ```Contrary to metaphysics, dialects does not regard nature as an accidental agglomeration of things, of phenomena, disconnected with, isolated from, and independent of, each other, but as a connected and integral whole, in such things phenomena are organically connected with, dependent on, and determined by each other,.```

@cmad fascists can't read that much

You're scarring them

lmao

This still doesn't address the fact that there is not historical precedent for a global communist society. There isn't even precedent for a national communist society. You are taking a big leap in logic by inferring that this stateless global order must form because of previous changes in the mode of production.

*national communist society*

Society will change, but not in the drastic leap that communists believe will happen

Unless you hand control of the means of production to AI, then you may have a better argument

Woah

But that wouldn't be communism then because the proletarian would not exist

We have a transhumanist

I'm talking about theory, even then I haven't done much research about a global AI order haha

Communism is an inevitability because of scientific advancement. Our productivity will gradually reach a point where communism is the only reasonable system

Though it’s a much better idea to discuss socialism because that is achievable now

and it has been observed

The proletarian will be replaced by the AI in any case. The proletarian is subject to extinction within the next 60 years in fact

Socialism was extremely successful in the USSR

Greatly improved the standards of living for the people their

And rapidly industrialized a back water nation into an economic power house

In just a little under 50 years

Do you mean through an extinction event or through the collapse of capitalism when you say “the proletariat is subject to extinction”

The industrialization program was started by the tsar, the Soviets just continued it

@☭ Anon ☭ I mean that there will no longer be a working class once AI can do any meaningful job, but faster

and more efficiently

That’s great. We’ll have achieved automation

Actually 40

@Americus that's called a post scarcity Economy

Which will lead to the eventual nullification of capitalism and labor

As well as economic class

Machines are coldly logical. Population growth will cause them to make the only logical decision. There is no such thing as post scarcity, as long as there are growing populations there will always be a struggle for resources