and obviously nutrition and fitness go hand in hand. Everyone here should be working out

I don't think there is a single person here that is arguing that pop tarts and soda is good nutrition. That is not the topic of conversation. The topic was nonsense bro science about test levels being affected by food. If you trully have an enoctrine problem, go get tested and seek treatment.

I guess I was just speaking in regards to beginners. If you're more advanced by all means get tested and fine tune your nutrition. I just personally had that issue starting out and being bogged down by an overabundance of info that's all

Certain foods do raise T levels, just as soy lowers T levels.

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https://www.healthline.com/health/low-testosterone/boosting-food It isn't bro-science. It's hard science.

Here is the thing to keep in mind, and I really every man here thinks this through. Your health is the most important thing you have. Testostorone production in your body like insulin production or adrenal function or kidney function has an optimal range for your body that might or might not be the range that your body is producing such hormone. Some endoctrine systems are very responsive to outside influence, i.e. prolonged high glucose diet can bring about insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. If you have low testostorone, aka hypogonadism you are at higher risk of bone fractures, heart disease, depression. You need to get that looked at and remedied. If your test level is normal, the you can follow bro science.

Lol, hard science. How many percentage points does egg yolk raise test levels in men with primary or seconday hypogonadism? I don't see an answer in there.

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Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. (2012). Prostate cancer: Six things men should know about tomatoes, fish oil, vitamin supplements, testosterone, PSA Tests - and more [Press release].
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Lee DM, et al. (2012). Association of hypogonadism with vitamin D status: The European male aging study.
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There you go.

Here is another one for you. Holding guns vs babies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16866740

Why don't you run labcorp, eat a shit ton of eggs and then run the test again?

Do you know how you solve VitD deficiency today if you ar enot a farm worker. Yes pills. Not rubbing onion juice on your temples.

@Deleted User what I read is you need zinc and vitamin d. Why not just supplement?

Don't suplement if you are not deficient. WHy would you do that?

The onion shit is a meme tbh. And yeah supplements for both these things are helpful. Although there is less bioavailability in vitamins as opposed to getting it naturally from food.

During the winter you will be. But like caco said the vitamins are less bioavailabile

You need to eat anyway. Why not focus your diet around foods heavy in vitamins and minerals beneficial to T and muscle development?

Agreed

A diet heavy in polysaturated fats and protein is ideal for this.

You've convinced me. No more depending on 12hr sleep sessions and squats for t

tfw if I don't set an alarm I regularly sleep 10-12 hours

Your body needs it. Like fuck you caco I'm recovering

Yeah pretty much, I'm pretty harsh on myself

Had about 300 cal of eggs and a cup of coffee this morning at 8

Worked + 2 hours at the gym

It's 1am and I still haven't eaten since

That's.. not Goodman

The gf is making lamb chops right now so I'm set

but yeah I do this regularly

Nice

Does anyone prescribe to a Paleo diet/lifestyle? I've been on it for over two months and it's given me considerable benefits

I've been Paleo for nearly seven years. There have been varying degrees of strictness modifications to stop myself from becoming too thin. It totally changed my gastrointestinal system. I'm very fond of the lifestyle.

@Argument of Perigee , I find it far easier and better for me than strict calorie counting. I find myself keeping good muscle mass and far more energy

Yea, calories have no meaning to me with Paleo. I'll eat 3 ribeye steaks for dinner if I want--no fat gain. I've got a very tall & slender build; even so, people see me destroying massive amounts of meat and are speechless at how I maintain my body.

Keep at it if it suits you and has great results.

I'm glad it works for you as well. Definitely re-affirmation for me that I'm doing the right thing. Thank you.

Can you guys explain the benefits paleo is giving you. For instance I've been on keto a few months and it's given me way more energy during the midday when I used to get tired. Do you guys see anything similar from paleo?

I actually follow a loose form of paleo - a poor man's paleo if you will

I've cut out 90% of carbs. My diet is meat and veggies essentially