Message from eastern.patriarch in Fitness #nutrition

2017-12-08 05:29:46 UTC  

Well that explains my love of garlic

2017-12-08 05:29:53 UTC  

And hot peppers

2017-12-08 05:30:06 UTC  

And onions

2017-12-08 05:30:22 UTC  

But I just can't back broccoli

2017-12-08 05:30:24 UTC  

I've done extensive research in redpilled nutrition/how to raise T levels as a backdrop to my hobby as an amateur chef.

2017-12-08 05:30:44 UTC  

I might do a write up tomorrow of a comprehensive list of what raises T levels, and what harms them.

2017-12-08 05:31:53 UTC  

I've had the best results simply lifting heavy and at most supplementing with creatine. Bust your ass in the gym fuck all these bs hacks

2017-12-08 05:32:09 UTC  

Hot peppers, onions and fish oil along wiht brok and other veggies are great for you. Anybody that claims there is even a transient effect on your test levels with food is selling you bullshit. And if they are not, just ask for the labs. Test is some of the cheapest, easiest, insant labs you can get.

2017-12-08 05:32:13 UTC  

Nutrition isn't BS. It's critical

2017-12-08 05:32:38 UTC  

who said nutrition is bs?

2017-12-08 05:32:58 UTC  

Eat healthy but I'm just talking over thinking I never said nutrition was bs

2017-12-08 05:34:17 UTC  

Nutrition is crucial to manage your insulin, ldl, hdl, mood, bone density etc. It will not change your test level. But you don't need to argue. Just go get tested before and after and post your results. Simple. If you don't have that, you don't know.

2017-12-08 05:34:47 UTC  

Results speak for themselves

2017-12-08 05:34:47 UTC  

It's still true that different foods have different effects on you physically, and there is great benefit to fine-tuning a diet

2017-12-08 05:35:21 UTC  

and obviously nutrition and fitness go hand in hand. Everyone here should be working out

2017-12-08 05:36:57 UTC  

I don't think there is a single person here that is arguing that pop tarts and soda is good nutrition. That is not the topic of conversation. The topic was nonsense bro science about test levels being affected by food. If you trully have an enoctrine problem, go get tested and seek treatment.

2017-12-08 05:39:30 UTC  

I guess I was just speaking in regards to beginners. If you're more advanced by all means get tested and fine tune your nutrition. I just personally had that issue starting out and being bogged down by an overabundance of info that's all

2017-12-08 05:43:10 UTC  

Certain foods do raise T levels, just as soy lowers T levels.

2017-12-08 05:43:16 UTC  


2017-12-08 05:43:37 UTC  
2017-12-08 05:46:31 UTC  

Here is the thing to keep in mind, and I really every man here thinks this through. Your health is the most important thing you have. Testostorone production in your body like insulin production or adrenal function or kidney function has an optimal range for your body that might or might not be the range that your body is producing such hormone. Some endoctrine systems are very responsive to outside influence, i.e. prolonged high glucose diet can bring about insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. If you have low testostorone, aka hypogonadism you are at higher risk of bone fractures, heart disease, depression. You need to get that looked at and remedied. If your test level is normal, the you can follow bro science.

2017-12-08 05:47:51 UTC  

Lol, hard science. How many percentage points does egg yolk raise test levels in men with primary or seconday hypogonadism? I don't see an answer in there.

2017-12-08 05:47:59 UTC  

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2017-12-08 05:48:03 UTC  

There you go.

2017-12-08 05:48:31 UTC  

Here is another one for you. Holding guns vs babies.

2017-12-08 05:49:28 UTC  

Why don't you run labcorp, eat a shit ton of eggs and then run the test again?

2017-12-08 05:50:15 UTC  

Do you know how you solve VitD deficiency today if you ar enot a farm worker. Yes pills. Not rubbing onion juice on your temples.

2017-12-08 05:50:42 UTC  

@Deleted User what I read is you need zinc and vitamin d. Why not just supplement?

2017-12-08 05:51:10 UTC  

Don't suplement if you are not deficient. WHy would you do that?

2017-12-08 05:51:49 UTC  

The onion shit is a meme tbh. And yeah supplements for both these things are helpful. Although there is less bioavailability in vitamins as opposed to getting it naturally from food.

2017-12-08 05:52:43 UTC  

During the winter you will be. But like caco said the vitamins are less bioavailabile

2017-12-08 05:52:46 UTC  

You need to eat anyway. Why not focus your diet around foods heavy in vitamins and minerals beneficial to T and muscle development?

2017-12-08 05:53:31 UTC  


2017-12-08 05:53:47 UTC  

A diet heavy in polysaturated fats and protein is ideal for this.

2017-12-08 05:55:49 UTC  

You've convinced me. No more depending on 12hr sleep sessions and squats for t

2017-12-08 05:56:37 UTC  

tfw if I don't set an alarm I regularly sleep 10-12 hours

2017-12-08 05:57:50 UTC  

Your body needs it. Like fuck you caco I'm recovering

2017-12-08 05:58:21 UTC  

Yeah pretty much, I'm pretty harsh on myself

2017-12-08 05:58:41 UTC  

Had about 300 cal of eggs and a cup of coffee this morning at 8

2017-12-08 05:58:53 UTC  

Worked + 2 hours at the gym