Message from shyguy in Fitness #nutrition

2017-12-08 20:22:37 UTC  

its probs not food

2017-12-08 20:22:45 UTC  

no way

2017-12-08 20:22:48 UTC  

like 1/3 white men are effete pussies

2017-12-08 20:23:01 UTC  

it's _definitely_ environmental causes mate

2017-12-08 20:23:04 UTC  


2017-12-08 20:23:05 UTC  

no becuse of soy

2017-12-08 20:23:13 UTC  

bro trust us

2017-12-08 20:23:14 UTC  

There's evidence going both ways on soy

2017-12-08 20:23:15 UTC  

it's a thing

2017-12-08 20:23:17 UTC  

not just soy

2017-12-08 20:23:30 UTC  

theres zero scientific evidence you can present to demonstate soy having a noticible estrogenic effect

2017-12-08 20:23:34 UTC  

prove me wrong

2017-12-08 20:23:49 UTC  

proven wrong

2017-12-08 20:23:54 UTC  

2000 BBC documentary

2017-12-08 20:23:54 UTC  

Phytoestrogens are 1000x less potent than actual estrogen, but if you have enough soy, they can block your hormone receptors and effectively allow your body to create less test.

2017-12-08 20:24:00 UTC  

link sources

2017-12-08 20:24:11 UTC  

i dont wanna watch some presentation

2017-12-08 20:24:34 UTC  

This is a really good BBC doc on the lowering of test in the west and how it's directly tied to environmental causes

2017-12-08 20:24:36 UTC  

@shyguy Also there is evidence, if women with imbalanced hormones take a tablescpoon of flax seed every day for a month, their estrogen will increase by 96%.

2017-12-08 20:24:40 UTC  

soy dosent even have that much phytoestrogen

2017-12-08 20:24:44 UTC  

I would strongly recommend it

2017-12-08 20:24:53 UTC  

Plastic is also a key source of estrogen

2017-12-08 20:25:06 UTC  


2017-12-08 20:25:10 UTC  

and as an endochrin disrupter

2017-12-08 20:26:41 UTC  

Even if soy isnt the direct culprit of high estrogen levels in men it IS more like that men who consume more soy also consume less red meat thus causing higher estrogen levels.

2017-12-08 20:27:05 UTC  

Soy isn't the direct culprit. I don't think anyone is saying that, because it isn't

2017-12-08 20:27:10 UTC  

It's one _of many_ culprits

2017-12-08 20:27:19 UTC  

"Nutrition is key, nutrition is essential, nutrition defines your health... but nutrition has ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT on hormones!... Because I said so!"

2017-12-08 20:27:26 UTC  

Nice try 👌🏻

2017-12-08 20:27:39 UTC  

Trying to keep the onions to yourself

2017-12-08 20:27:47 UTC  

onionjews confirmed

2017-12-08 20:27:54 UTC  

Onion hoarding is against IE policy.

2017-12-08 20:29:29 UTC  

Insulin insensitivity from eating too much sugar is also related to low testosterone

2017-12-08 20:30:31 UTC  

The average American is consuming like 3 times the recommended dose of sugar daily

2017-12-08 20:31:03 UTC  

Why would you eat soy in the first place?

2017-12-08 20:31:17 UTC  

Yeah ikr

2017-12-08 20:31:20 UTC  

who defends soy