Message from @Gaius Mucius Scaevola

Discord ID: 400449380944969738


2018-01-09 20:59:44 UTC  

All I want to say is I’ve been vegan for 2 years and eat soy products semi regularly. No negative health effects, no problems with test levels, and I have been lifting 5 days per week over that same period - you can ask anyone from the Northeast who all know me IRL for reference.
It’s likely the Try Guys eat a standard omnivorous American diet and are betas by nature - not as a result of phytoestrogens.

2018-01-09 21:00:23 UTC  

BUT ITS OK IF YOU DISAGREE AND ARENT VEGAN THATS FINE YOU DONT HAVE TO EAT SOY IF YOU DONT WANT TO

2018-01-09 21:06:05 UTC  

They have no more arguments, they need to go vegan

2018-01-09 21:06:51 UTC  

I’ve seen too many friendships die this way.

2018-01-09 21:09:59 UTC  

Agreed, but if they have can't formulate an argument against it or any argument they have doesn't hold water logically or in terms of health, then they should go vegan. It's definitely not a pressing issue right now, but when we have our future secured, it'll be a talking point then.

2018-01-09 22:24:27 UTC  

I go full cod liver oil for fats

2018-01-09 22:24:32 UTC  

Omega 3 I mean

2018-01-09 22:24:51 UTC  

My system is very sensitive

2018-01-09 22:25:13 UTC  

Would rather avoid all possible sources of estrogen

2018-01-09 23:50:59 UTC  

Yeah, the soy argument for whatever reason can get pretty heated.

2018-01-09 23:51:38 UTC  

It is not de wae

2018-01-09 23:52:07 UTC  

We had a new IE member flip out in here a while back -- he told someone who was arguing that soy wasn't that bad that he was a Jewish shill and should get killed by antifa.

2018-01-09 23:52:12 UTC  

Needless to say, we let him go.

2018-01-10 00:03:51 UTC  

Lol

2018-01-10 00:39:51 UTC  

what do you guys think of the ECA stack?

2018-01-10 00:40:05 UTC  

Are primatene tablets a good way to get ephedrine for pre-workout?

2018-01-10 00:41:04 UTC  

It works but the A is now considered unnecessary

2018-01-10 00:41:13 UTC  

Bronkaid is the common go to for ephedrine

2018-01-10 00:41:40 UTC  

Can be bought behind the counter at Walgreens.

2018-01-10 00:42:14 UTC  

Just be careful because it can get your heart rate really high if you do HIIT or any high intensity cardio

2018-01-10 00:42:52 UTC  

want to do it in combo with intermittent fasting

2018-01-10 00:43:06 UTC  

i don't do HIIT

2018-01-10 00:45:03 UTC  

That's the best way to do it I think

2018-01-10 00:45:21 UTC  

And definitely don't do MMA while on it

2018-01-10 00:47:37 UTC  

What's the pro/cons of that vs a traditional pre workout powder like no explode or c4? I'm trying to start working out before work but it's hard for me to get going

2018-01-10 00:51:34 UTC  

ECA is primarily used for fat loss

2018-01-10 00:52:14 UTC  

It's not really a pre workout but it will definitely give you energy

2018-01-10 00:54:14 UTC  

Ya I knew it gave you energy. I thought the fat loss just came from working out with the energy it gave you. I am definitely not wanting to lose any weight so I better stay away. I guess I'll try a good pre workout. I've used a couple different ones in the past being the two I previously listed.

2018-01-10 00:58:45 UTC  

Fat loss occurs on ECA by increasing your resting heart rate. Studies show it helps decrease bodyfat while retaining significant amounts of muscle mass

2018-01-10 00:59:13 UTC  

I'd just go for a preworkout... my favourite is nitraflex from GAT or Bang

2018-01-10 00:59:36 UTC  

Ok thanks man I'll check them out.

2018-01-10 01:00:54 UTC  

I'm never going vegan ahaha stay mad soyboys check 'em ☝🏻☝🏻️☝🏻️ (I'm only being slightly ironic)

2018-01-10 01:03:20 UTC  

@JesseJames i workout before work and NOxplode is essential

2018-01-10 01:03:29 UTC  

cant get up without it

2018-01-10 01:03:42 UTC  

It's like crack

2018-01-10 02:31:47 UTC  

ECA is pretty over rated, but I might just have a degenerately high tolerance to stims.

2018-01-10 02:32:08 UTC  

The first few weeks of taking it it will definitely supress your appetite though so that's a bonus if you're cutting.

2018-01-10 02:32:26 UTC  

Make sure you are still getting enough protein though.

2018-01-10 02:40:30 UTC  

@Zyzz ya I've used noxplode before as well. It seemed to do great. It's a different ball game going in the gym before work though lol. I'm not a morning person.

2018-01-10 02:42:28 UTC  

@JesseJames first thing i do when i wake up is take it. in literally a minute or two i start to feel it wake me up. i am not really a morning person either but the powder helps gets me going better than any cup of coffee i have ever had

2018-01-10 02:44:40 UTC  

Good to know. Where is the best place to buy it? I think I had gotten it off amazon before. You don't know any big box stores that may carry it do ya?