If that makes sense

@Tedium ham is the blacks ancestor I think

@Tedium it only applied to Cain

I don't know that the Bible says anything about Cain's descendants receiving a mark, though

Like, a lot of good non-white immigrants come here and do a lot of good and live the country, etc.

Love the country*

@Ronny TX cains descendants was blah

Noah *

He's in Houston and surrounded by immigrants and African christians

He can't imagine the gospel not applying to them

This is just new territory for me. I haven't read my bible in a while, especially from a redpilled standpoint

If I can get him biblically, I got him

I personally think the Gospel can apply to anyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and becomes baptized; that being said, I don't think we have any obligation to let them live in our countries or anything of the sort. We can send missionaries to their countries, we don't need them here. Spiritually, all can be equal, but biologically, some are inferior

I agree with you.

But

When he hears brother in Christ any idea of inferiority goes out the window

Assuming MoC is genetic (my bad, thought it was expressly stated to be genetic)...

What country of non-blacks has ever butchered blacks and survived?

In the same form it did the butchering

UK doesn't count because it's unrecognizable. They're the only ones that come to mind.

John 8:15 "You judge by human standards; I judge no one."

That's the kind of shit he'll say

That proves you right. We are humans. To claim that we are Christ is blasphemy.

We operate on a lower, baser level than Christ.

But there is a call to leave the world behind right?

@Fox Tx actually, I think Noah was the descendant of Seth. Just a moment...

Depends on version too.

KJV is really big where I live. It's

Ye judge after the flesh, I judge no man.

Telling us that it is natural for man to judge based on the flesh

Human nature

@Ronny TX Cain was the grandfather of Enoch

All I have in front of me is nrsv

Christ is differentiating Himself from humans by explaining how his entire mindset and world view is different

Genesis 5 has the generations from Adam to Noah: Adam -> Seth -> Enosh -> Kenan -> Mahalalel -> Jared -> Enoch -> Methuselah -> Lamech -> Noah

Now, Cain did have descendants with similar names: Cain -> Enoch -> Irad -> Mehujael -> Methushael -> Lamech

@Riefen would you be willing to voice chat with us at some point?

Anyone else willing to help can as well

I just don't want him ganged up on

@Riefen yeah, my mom used to tell me that the Mark of Cain was black skin too, and it was a common belief for a while. It could be a genetic curse, and perhaps blacks are cursed (that would explain a lot), I just don't know that the Bible *explicitly* says that

Mormons taught that for many years

Until the early 90s I believe

A lot of Protestants did for a while, to justify slavery

A lot of people believe that blacks are descended from Ham, Ham's descendants were cursed to be servants