Message from @Mick

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2018-12-30 20:56:42 UTC  

Although this isn't a human example, it is at least one example for bacteria.

2018-12-30 20:57:37 UTC  

Some of the best recent evidence for group selection comes from microbial organisms, in part because they are such efficient systems for ecological and evolutionary research spanning many generations.

2018-12-30 20:59:01 UTC  

The "wrinkly spreader" (WS) strain of Pseudomonas fluorescens evolves in response to anoxic conditions in unmixed liquid medium, by producing a cellulosic polymer that forms a mat on the surface. The polymer is expensive to produce, which means that nonproducing "cheaters" have the highest relative fitness within the group.

2018-12-30 21:00:02 UTC  

As the cheaters spread, the mat deteriorates and eventually sinks to the bottom. WS is maintained in the total population by between-group selection, despite its selective disadvantage within groups, exactly as envisioned by multilevel selection theory (Rainey and Rainey 2003)

2018-12-30 21:06:07 UTC  

he's saying that we weren't calculating for polygenetic traits back when their theory was first proposed, and that current computer models show that their theory is plausible

2018-12-30 21:07:17 UTC  

ya as their models get more accurate it'll be exciting to see what happens

2018-12-30 21:08:03 UTC  

that isn't true by the way - the infinitesimal model has been around for ages

2018-12-30 21:08:17 UTC  

as for bacteria, they are almost clones of each other

2018-12-30 21:08:20 UTC  

What do you mean?

2018-12-30 21:08:35 UTC  

What isnt true

2018-12-30 21:09:23 UTC  

he is saying that critics were criticizing their theory by saying 1 trait = 1 gene, and that we know now that many genes affect a trait

2018-12-30 21:09:48 UTC  

but in the infinitesimal model it is assumed that an infinite number of alleles affect a trait

2018-12-31 22:16:23 UTC  

The Evolutionary Dominance of Ethnocentric Cooperation

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

2018-12-31 22:17:52 UTC  

This is also a good read my friends. I think I’ve posted this elsewhere I forget. It is about ethnocentrism dominating all other strategies

2018-12-31 22:17:59 UTC  

In this simulation model

2019-01-05 01:47:27 UTC  

Ethnocentrism is a robust strategy and worked in other models also and under other initial variables so researchers determine this is not a “knife-edge effect” but, once again, a robust evolutionary stable strategy. Methinks if whites don’t adopt it soon we won’t be able to compete.

2019-01-07 04:10:42 UTC  

@Myndrian great article

2019-01-07 04:14:12 UTC  

Molyneux just tweeted about this topic, can't find it. anyone else see it?

2019-01-07 04:18:53 UTC  

Which topic? Ethnocentrism?

2019-01-07 04:19:01 UTC  

yes

2019-01-07 04:19:13 UTC  

i feel like i just saw him tweet about this

2019-01-07 04:19:37 UTC  

specifically wrt evolutionary success vs. "diversity"

2019-01-07 04:19:49 UTC  

isn't that what the article is about?

2019-01-07 04:44:18 UTC  

I think this one is “The Evolutionary Dominance of Ethnocentrism”

2019-01-07 04:44:38 UTC  

right

2019-01-07 04:44:44 UTC  

Errr ethnocentric cooperation. But he is right and is probably referring to the same thing

2019-01-07 04:44:59 UTC  

i think moly tweeted in direct and explicit reference to it

2019-01-07 04:45:13 UTC  

i'll try to find it

2019-01-07 04:46:06 UTC  

Ok sweet I’m to lazy sorry I’ll

2019-01-07 04:46:09 UTC  

Lol

2019-01-07 04:46:44 UTC  

"sorry I'll lol" lol wut

2019-01-07 04:47:48 UTC  

Also, can someone please meme this already. I don't have photoshop.

2019-01-07 04:48:32 UTC  

I’ll was supposed to be lol

2019-01-07 04:48:58 UTC  

We need a meme force

2019-01-07 04:49:02 UTC  

An IE meme force

2019-01-07 04:49:17 UTC  

I guess we already got one eh?

2019-01-07 04:49:24 UTC  

Develop a humorous memetic culture

2019-01-07 04:49:27 UTC  

Meme soldiers

2019-01-07 04:53:20 UTC  

This should be our main objective right now 👆🏻

2019-01-07 04:55:38 UTC  

Look at this dude.
asian
chad jaw
weird head/hair
rapey