but @DeusVolk intro post motivating af

have we set an official start date or # of pages/week we are reading?

@Zyzz I think we'll pick 1/5 to start to ensure everyone has a copy. Judging from the poll last night, we will be doing 50 pages weekly.

I will post an announcement in a few hours, just giving more time for people to vote.

Also, if you do not have a copy or do not think you will have one by 1/5, send me a message and we'll get you taken care of.

Im in the same boat @Pavel Cristović but now im hyped without even reading the first page!

Guessing someone's thought about this, but auto repagination is going to make figuring out if you're on the mark for the 50 pages tough. Not sure how to sort that out. Any ideas?

I have thought about this and figured the format could be different for kindle. We could go by chapters to help fix this issue, chapter 3 is 65pgs, we could probably stop there.

Considering the book begins on page 9, it shouldn't be too big of a difference.

So botm is Why we fight?

@Deleted User looks like it

Alllllllllrighty then

I ordered it last night, so it will be here Tuesday I think.

Is that a fairly new book.

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Why We Fight? 2012 I think

Ok

@Deleted User Why, you making sure you're buying the right one?

Aye. 29 buckaroos. Worth it

It’s a 2011 translation of a 2001 book. Sort of eerie how it predates what we see now so well.

I have my copy to reread, I'll try to participate

@Hessian You'll probably have to order it online

I like the name, btw. Good call back to a uniquely German part of history

Interesting that Faye doesn't talk about the JQ at all does he? I think I read in the forward of the copy of Why We Fight that I have (or maybe it was online) that he used to speak on the JQ, but then had a change of heart on it. Is that true?

Hes in Europe

Faye's position on the JQ is a complex subject. For a detailed analysis of Faye and the JQ i would recommend Michael O'Meara's books *New Culture, New Right* & *Guillaume Faye and the Battle of Europe*

I think Faye largely ignores, but is aware of the JQ, because he knows the real cure for our sickness is strengthening the European peoples first

Got my copy of Why We Fight in the mail. Might get a bit of a headstart if i get the chance to read.

It is unfortunate that Faye takes the line that America is a country for anyone, and not just whites.

Does he ever address Australia and Canada? Or does he view them same as the US?

His 'America is for everyone' line isn't consistent with his AmRen and NPI speeches. A lot of the book seems like rhetoric for Continential readers.

I'm only about a fifth way of the way done - he hasn't talked about them yet

Faye conflates geopolitics and ideology quite a bit. One of my serious problems with him is the antiamericanism throughout the book. The geopolitical criticism is sound, but projecting that onto a cultural critique of America is very irresponsible.

The problem here is the assumption that US foreign policy is guided by rational self-interest, instead of ideology.

He modifies that position quite a bit in *Convergence of Catastrophes* and his later books. Anti-americanism is deeply engrained in Alain de Benoist and GRECE. Faye's more recent stance is actually distinctly friendly toward America in comparison

Benoist's critique of America is essentially justified and extremely valuable IMO, even if we might want to dismiss aspects of it

His criticisms of the Greens are pretty good

the Green party here is pretty similar - unwilling to embrace population reduction and nuclear energy

even if they sometimes do talk (correctly) about the importance of sustainable growth, rather than unlimited growth

I agree. He did a wonderful job defending his position on nuclear energy

[pg. 56] *"What disturbs our neo-Leftist ecologists is the objective power (military and economic) and independence that nuclear power offers Europe, as well as its technological implications. There’s a distinct logic to the Left’s struggle: weaken the European devil, censure her traditions and ancestral memories, defuse her technological and military power, smother her independence, corrupt her mores, and destroy her ethnic germen through immigration. Its anti-nuclear and propetroleum stances are but part of a concerted, multifaceted strategy to destroy the identity and continuity of European civilisation. The Left’s environmental concerns and defence of public health are simply crude, oily pretexts."*