Message from John O - in Literature Club #discussion_botm


2017-12-30 01:07:29 UTC  

Book of the Month discussion -

We will use this channel to discuss weekly what we have read and learned from the Book of the Month.

2017-12-30 04:41:46 UTC  

"This book, however, is more than just a book. It is many things at once: a handbook, a tool of critical observation, a strategic weapon, a compass of the spirit, and a leader of the struggle - and, because of this, predestined to become the reference work for all European identitarian forces of the Twenty-first century. Like the previous book in this series, this is also written out of duty and inner necessity in the service of a strategy of awakening as well as to create a corpus for a common European worldview. These are war books that serve, one as well as the other, to constantly remind us that we are engaged with an enemy who threatens the very essence of our being: the inviolable right to be and become what we are, with an identity embedded in the legacy of our ancestors, whose biographies tell the most important part of world history. They tell of everything from the conquest of the Earth to the conquest of the stars with the millennia-old, unalterable respect for the laws of life - against all criminal ideologies of racial and cultural extermination, whose handiwork is named miscegenation. By now it should be understood why such books are viewed as being of the worst sort by all who despise and destroy the races. It is because they teach about the right of peoples and the laws of life that govern them, which is everything that these destroyers are attempting to exterminate." Pg 23 (Kindle edition) Why We Fight.

This book is hyping me and I'm still in the foreward.

2017-12-30 15:57:08 UTC  

The forward felt like punishment to me. I skipped part of it with so many names and references to schools of thought, philosophies, and movements. The main text isn't hard to read. I might read the forward after the main text because it's good too. I'm liking the Kindle version because of it's integrated dictionary look up and being able to quickly look up that germen is an archaic word for seed, etc.

2017-12-30 16:11:47 UTC  

Yeah I often skip the forwards or intros to books but since I have no contextual knowledge of Faye I thought it would be necessary to set the stage.

2017-12-30 16:29:55 UTC  

You should push yourself to read the forward and intro. All those references in the forward are great for research and the intro is basically the thesis of any book—really helps you in grasping the whole thing

2017-12-30 16:52:57 UTC  

If an intro is too confusing or dry, I usually make a point to read it at least after I read the whole text.

2017-12-30 17:14:07 UTC  

Most forwards to books spoil the book anyway. Read it after.

2017-12-30 18:15:26 UTC  

Some forwards do tend to do that

2017-12-30 18:16:12 UTC  

i haven't started yet or put my hands on it

2017-12-30 18:16:28 UTC  

but @DeusVolk intro post motivating af

2017-12-30 18:16:44 UTC  

have we set an official start date or # of pages/week we are reading?

2017-12-30 18:18:03 UTC  

@Zyzz I think we'll pick 1/5 to start to ensure everyone has a copy. Judging from the poll last night, we will be doing 50 pages weekly.

2017-12-30 18:18:22 UTC  

I will post an announcement in a few hours, just giving more time for people to vote.

2017-12-30 18:21:55 UTC  

Also, if you do not have a copy or do not think you will have one by 1/5, send me a message and we'll get you taken care of.

2017-12-30 18:33:59 UTC  

Im in the same boat @Pavel Cristović but now im hyped without even reading the first page!

2017-12-30 18:51:40 UTC  

Guessing someone's thought about this, but auto repagination is going to make figuring out if you're on the mark for the 50 pages tough. Not sure how to sort that out. Any ideas?

2017-12-30 19:00:44 UTC  

I have thought about this and figured the format could be different for kindle. We could go by chapters to help fix this issue, chapter 3 is 65pgs, we could probably stop there.

2017-12-30 19:01:18 UTC  

Considering the book begins on page 9, it shouldn't be too big of a difference.

2017-12-31 03:31:02 UTC  

So botm is Why we fight?

2017-12-31 03:31:43 UTC  

@Deleted User looks like it

2017-12-31 03:32:17 UTC  

Alllllllllrighty then

2017-12-31 03:44:13 UTC  

I ordered it last night, so it will be here Tuesday I think.

2017-12-31 03:50:09 UTC  

Is that a fairly new book.

2017-12-31 03:50:11 UTC  

?

2017-12-31 03:50:47 UTC  

Why We Fight? 2012 I think

2017-12-31 03:51:17 UTC  

Ok

2017-12-31 03:52:39 UTC  

@Deleted User Why, you making sure you're buying the right one?

2017-12-31 04:23:22 UTC  

Aye. 29 buckaroos. Worth it

2017-12-31 06:30:55 UTC  

It’s a 2011 translation of a 2001 book. Sort of eerie how it predates what we see now so well.

2017-12-31 23:52:57 UTC  

I have my copy to reread, I'll try to participate

2018-01-01 19:41:18 UTC  

@Hessian You'll probably have to order it online

2018-01-01 19:42:26 UTC  

I like the name, btw. Good call back to a uniquely German part of history

2018-01-01 20:25:25 UTC  

Interesting that Faye doesn't talk about the JQ at all does he? I think I read in the forward of the copy of Why We Fight that I have (or maybe it was online) that he used to speak on the JQ, but then had a change of heart on it. Is that true?

2018-01-01 23:55:24 UTC  

Hes in Europe

2018-01-02 02:51:27 UTC  

Faye's position on the JQ is a complex subject. For a detailed analysis of Faye and the JQ i would recommend Michael O'Meara's books *New Culture, New Right* & *Guillaume Faye and the Battle of Europe*

2018-01-02 03:29:33 UTC  

I think Faye largely ignores, but is aware of the JQ, because he knows the real cure for our sickness is strengthening the European peoples first

2018-01-03 00:57:00 UTC  

Got my copy of Why We Fight in the mail. Might get a bit of a headstart if i get the chance to read.

2018-01-03 03:48:14 UTC  

It is unfortunate that Faye takes the line that America is a country for anyone, and not just whites.

2018-01-03 03:49:20 UTC  

Does he ever address Australia and Canada? Or does he view them same as the US?

2018-01-03 03:51:20 UTC  

His 'America is for everyone' line isn't consistent with his AmRen and NPI speeches. A lot of the book seems like rhetoric for Continential readers.