Message from celticflame in Literature Club #discussion_botm

2018-01-10 21:53:29 UTC  

I agree.
Let's say that we actually manage to drain the swamp, and for the sake of this example, we prosecute 1000 high powered elitists, and 500 of them are sems. It would be a great opportunity to make a case to Westernkind that perhaps there is a concerted effort by this specific demographic to undermine our authority. The problem I see is that, if this country is still hyper-individualistic, they will have a very hard time digesting that another demographic of people has been working against us systematically and cohesively. This is one major reason why we need an identitarian movement in the West. We need our people to remember how ethnic group strategies work if we are to convince them of the validity of what we have surmised to be the true threat.

2018-01-10 21:56:45 UTC  

It's a bitch of a catch 22

2018-01-10 21:59:53 UTC  

To keep trudging forward in both directions as we basically have been seems to be the only answer. I do see progress.

2018-01-10 22:02:53 UTC  

Disgenics can work in our favor. Hopefully the degens will stop breeding and purge themselves from our society, leaving the worthy to pick the torch back up where we left it.

2018-01-10 22:43:05 UTC  

Yeah but women don't operate like males

2018-01-10 22:43:15 UTC  

Good women can be led very much astray

2018-01-10 22:48:27 UTC  

*moment of silence*

2018-01-10 23:42:14 UTC  

All he needed to do was write (((America))) instead of America. I mean, we all know what he is saying.

2018-01-12 02:17:06 UTC  

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been active in this server the last week. I've come down with the flu - which is making its rounds at my work - but have finished about halfway of Why We Fight, and look forward to discussing its content this Sunday.

For those who don't know, we are reading Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye. We plan to read about 50 pages or so a week and discuss what we've read and learned every Sunday.

If you have any questions or are unable to obtain a copy of the book, please send me a message!


2018-01-12 02:24:28 UTC  

@CarletonJ have we selected a time to discuss? Would 10pm EST work?

2018-01-12 02:31:20 UTC  

Is this something you guys would want to voice chat about or just message within this channel? If we message within the channel, it allows everyone to contribute over time and saves our discussion. Doing it over voice chat may be more enjoyable but then we might lack participation.

2018-01-12 02:51:44 UTC  

We can do both

2018-01-12 02:55:31 UTC  

I definitely think a weekly voice chat would be good

2018-01-12 02:55:58 UTC  

Yeah, I'm thinking voice chat

2018-01-12 02:56:30 UTC  

put it to a vote but i am with voice (i always assumed it would be over voice)

2018-01-12 02:56:39 UTC  

Then it will need to be structured

2018-01-12 02:57:08 UTC  

So Ill talk, you all comment 😆

2018-01-12 02:58:41 UTC  

@Zyzz I don't think voting is necessary, because both can happen. It isn't up to me, though.

2018-01-12 03:06:50 UTC  

What's the time gonna be?

2018-01-12 03:12:40 UTC  

Im good for whatever time you guys decide. I'm not the best public speaker, is there anyone else that would like to take the lead and I could moderate to keep us on track and offer content and questions

2018-01-12 06:32:50 UTC  

I like both

2018-01-12 06:33:46 UTC  

I have a busy weekend with my local group so I cant guarantee I'll be there for voice chat but I'll definitely be checking the text discussion. 📱

2018-01-12 13:20:24 UTC  

"Beware of False Friends" - I'm thinking here of those de Gaulle described as 'kids jumping about crying: Europe! Europe!' talking of renaissance, but all the while defending decadent, permissive, censorious values that envisage Europe as a sort of 'tolerant' Disneyland, open to the world, an ethnopluralist pandemonium - without a defining identity, an internal order, or a will to power. The ideological lure of such discourses is great, especially if conveyed in intellectually pretentious language. It's of utmost importance, though, that we resist such pseudo-identitarians, whose conformity and craving for respectability surreptitiously camouflage multiracial and multicultural dogmas in the form of a European idea that actually dissociates Europe from her 'imperial idea.

2018-01-12 13:20:53 UTC  

^^Faye predictied the Alt-Lite in 2001

2018-01-12 15:06:07 UTC  

He sure did.

2018-01-12 18:13:03 UTC  

Faye is talking about Benoist and co. in that quote. The alt lite is too dumb to be accused of anything like "intellectually pretentious discourse" lol

2018-01-12 19:08:06 UTC  

@Neoptolemos IDK, Molyneux can be *right there*

2018-01-12 19:08:39 UTC  

There are a few alt lites that are intellectuals. However the vast majority are not.

2018-01-12 19:30:10 UTC  

The Alt lite thinks they are intellectuals and some have British accents so that's good enough for some people

2018-01-12 20:13:03 UTC  

Poor lauren southernites

2018-01-14 14:34:13 UTC  

@here so just to be clear we are reading up to "Strategic Principles"?

2018-01-14 16:44:49 UTC  

@Zyzz 65 pages. Up until Chapter 3.

2018-01-14 16:45:32 UTC  

@CarletonJ I have the ebook so pages are different. Can you tell me the title of chp 3? Is it Strategic Principles?

2018-01-14 16:47:26 UTC  

Let me check

2018-01-14 16:49:42 UTC  

@Zyzz yeah, that's where we're ending.

2018-01-14 17:06:21 UTC  

Thank you

2018-01-14 18:24:24 UTC  

Alt-Light is a good starting point. Once an Alt-Light person comes across Jared Taylor, they will be convinced in most cases.

2018-01-14 20:20:44 UTC  

Uncle Jared ftw.

2018-01-15 01:09:40 UTC  

Gee-um Fi

2018-01-15 01:16:31 UTC  

[pg. 15] "America may collude with forces of Islam to divide and weaken Europe for the sake of her global empire,"

2018-01-15 01:26:08 UTC  

[pg. 18] "This mandate, as the world's sole superpower, successor of Rome, would lead it to wage 'humanitarian wars' (Serbia, Kosovo, Iraq, etc.) in the name of its disordering global nomos; to enthrone the abstract, disembodied 'human rights' everywhere at the expense of historic and customary rights; to prevent all regulation of High Finance or Wall Street, and to use its vast powers to uphold the claim that the U.S. economy (and, by implication, the U.S. itself) had evolved, as Greenspan put it in 1998, 'beyond history' (i.e., beyond the realities that once conditioned economic/political behavior); etc.

Against the Philistines of the Marxist Left (who betrayed the European working class for the detritus of an overpopulated Third World) and against the Babbitts of the so-called Right (whose one and only God is Mammon), Faye saw that the anti-European, multicultural, reality-denying forces of America’s global economic order would experience (within a decade) not just a long patch of very stormy
weather, when their fantasy projects and hyper-power plans would succumb to certain formerly-denied realities-he saw that their self-generating catastrophes, and the interregnum they would create, were about to give the ‘resistance’ another opportunity to throw off
liberalism’s death-embrace ---and, once the chaos passed, inaugurate a Fourth Age of European civilisation."