Message from Deleted User in Literature Club #discussion_botm

2018-01-10 21:36:32 UTC  

We can attack the systems of oppression that have been set in place to oppress us, and prosecute those who are guilty, which will inevitably lead us to our "J controllers". Once their mechanisms are dismantled, those of us who have the answer to the JQ can wage a silent war against these people and expose them for what they are so we can be certain that they are never permitted to return to ANY western civilization.

2018-01-10 21:42:14 UTC  

I was listening to the the Tara McCarthy debate with Styxhexenhammer yesterday, and he proposed that an identitarian movement isn't necessary for us to fix our society. That is bullshit. The destruction of our ethnic cohesion is a huge weapon that has been leveled against westernkind, and if we do not repair the damage, we may be vulnerable to divide and conquer tactics by the same elitists in the future. I dont know about you goys, but I dont want this same bullshit repeated during the lifetime of my grandchildren....

2018-01-10 21:45:31 UTC  

The only issue I see with not naming them, is that when we attack their mechanisms of oppression, they retain credibility to counter those attacks perpetually; which we've seen over and over again. It's a tough strategic question that I'm still on the fence about. I think the merit of naming them, while it's a much steeper uphill battle, is being able to discredit their defense of these mechanisms.

2018-01-10 21:51:05 UTC  

Not to mention the labyrinthine political understanding required to surgically attack these mechanisms may be beyond the average citizen, rather than giving them a single, simplified focal point of an enemy.

2018-01-10 21:53:29 UTC  

I agree.
Let's say that we actually manage to drain the swamp, and for the sake of this example, we prosecute 1000 high powered elitists, and 500 of them are sems. It would be a great opportunity to make a case to Westernkind that perhaps there is a concerted effort by this specific demographic to undermine our authority. The problem I see is that, if this country is still hyper-individualistic, they will have a very hard time digesting that another demographic of people has been working against us systematically and cohesively. This is one major reason why we need an identitarian movement in the West. We need our people to remember how ethnic group strategies work if we are to convince them of the validity of what we have surmised to be the true threat.

2018-01-10 21:56:45 UTC  

It's a bitch of a catch 22

2018-01-10 21:59:53 UTC  

To keep trudging forward in both directions as we basically have been seems to be the only answer. I do see progress.

2018-01-10 22:02:53 UTC  

Disgenics can work in our favor. Hopefully the degens will stop breeding and purge themselves from our society, leaving the worthy to pick the torch back up where we left it.

2018-01-10 22:43:05 UTC  

Yeah but women don't operate like males

2018-01-10 22:43:15 UTC  

Good women can be led very much astray

2018-01-10 22:48:27 UTC  

*moment of silence*

2018-01-10 23:42:14 UTC  

All he needed to do was write (((America))) instead of America. I mean, we all know what he is saying.

2018-01-12 02:17:06 UTC  

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been active in this server the last week. I've come down with the flu - which is making its rounds at my work - but have finished about halfway of Why We Fight, and look forward to discussing its content this Sunday.

For those who don't know, we are reading Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye. We plan to read about 50 pages or so a week and discuss what we've read and learned every Sunday.

If you have any questions or are unable to obtain a copy of the book, please send me a message!


2018-01-12 02:24:28 UTC  

@CarletonJ have we selected a time to discuss? Would 10pm EST work?

2018-01-12 02:31:20 UTC  

Is this something you guys would want to voice chat about or just message within this channel? If we message within the channel, it allows everyone to contribute over time and saves our discussion. Doing it over voice chat may be more enjoyable but then we might lack participation.

2018-01-12 02:51:44 UTC  

We can do both

2018-01-12 02:55:31 UTC  

I definitely think a weekly voice chat would be good

2018-01-12 02:55:58 UTC  

Yeah, I'm thinking voice chat

2018-01-12 02:56:30 UTC  

put it to a vote but i am with voice (i always assumed it would be over voice)

2018-01-12 02:56:39 UTC  

Then it will need to be structured

2018-01-12 02:57:08 UTC  

So Ill talk, you all comment 😆

2018-01-12 02:58:41 UTC  

@Zyzz I don't think voting is necessary, because both can happen. It isn't up to me, though.

2018-01-12 03:06:50 UTC  

What's the time gonna be?

2018-01-12 03:12:40 UTC  

Im good for whatever time you guys decide. I'm not the best public speaker, is there anyone else that would like to take the lead and I could moderate to keep us on track and offer content and questions

2018-01-12 06:32:50 UTC  

I like both

2018-01-12 06:33:46 UTC  

I have a busy weekend with my local group so I cant guarantee I'll be there for voice chat but I'll definitely be checking the text discussion. 📱

2018-01-12 13:20:24 UTC  

"Beware of False Friends" - I'm thinking here of those de Gaulle described as 'kids jumping about crying: Europe! Europe!' talking of renaissance, but all the while defending decadent, permissive, censorious values that envisage Europe as a sort of 'tolerant' Disneyland, open to the world, an ethnopluralist pandemonium - without a defining identity, an internal order, or a will to power. The ideological lure of such discourses is great, especially if conveyed in intellectually pretentious language. It's of utmost importance, though, that we resist such pseudo-identitarians, whose conformity and craving for respectability surreptitiously camouflage multiracial and multicultural dogmas in the form of a European idea that actually dissociates Europe from her 'imperial idea.

2018-01-12 13:20:53 UTC  

^^Faye predictied the Alt-Lite in 2001

2018-01-12 15:06:07 UTC  

He sure did.

2018-01-12 18:13:03 UTC  

Faye is talking about Benoist and co. in that quote. The alt lite is too dumb to be accused of anything like "intellectually pretentious discourse" lol

2018-01-12 19:08:06 UTC  

@Neoptolemos IDK, Molyneux can be *right there*

2018-01-12 19:08:39 UTC  

There are a few alt lites that are intellectuals. However the vast majority are not.

2018-01-12 19:30:10 UTC  

The Alt lite thinks they are intellectuals and some have British accents so that's good enough for some people

2018-01-12 20:13:03 UTC  

Poor lauren southernites

2018-01-14 14:34:13 UTC  

@here so just to be clear we are reading up to "Strategic Principles"?

2018-01-14 16:44:49 UTC  

@Zyzz 65 pages. Up until Chapter 3.

2018-01-14 16:45:32 UTC  

@CarletonJ I have the ebook so pages are different. Can you tell me the title of chp 3? Is it Strategic Principles?

2018-01-14 16:47:26 UTC  

Let me check

2018-01-14 16:49:42 UTC  

@Zyzz yeah, that's where we're ending.

2018-01-14 17:06:21 UTC  

Thank you

2018-01-14 18:24:24 UTC  

Alt-Light is a good starting point. Once an Alt-Light person comes across Jared Taylor, they will be convinced in most cases.