Message from CarletonJ in Literature Club #discussion_botm


2018-01-15 01:41:28 UTC  

[pg. 20] "Fate's irony surpass the most horrific scenarios we could have imagined as the guests of yesterday mutate into the new lords of the land, and who then take charge over society."

2018-01-15 01:42:11 UTC  

[pg. 22] "The willingness to redefine our terms thus implies a mental readiness to begin a counterattack against the political correct tyranny's aggressions and intimidations, these being nothing but a ruse by an enemy who knows full well that the more you pervert the language of a people, the more the spirit will be distorted and its resistance weakened.

2018-01-15 01:48:30 UTC  

[pg. 24] "We possess, however, the highest trump - the trump of trumps, which those who are attempting to erase all traces of their own blood do not possess and never can possess. We know where we are going because we know where we came from. We possess the memory of the history that is also the memory of the mythos of our ethnos, the consciousness of an unbroken line of ancestors from whom we have inherited the most valuable of all privileges: namely, the privilege to be like them."

2018-01-15 01:49:22 UTC  

[pg. 24] "The time is short! The challenge is huge, yet it is from our enemies' folly that wisdom is born, from this will that life is passed on, and from this despair that hope rises: for only at the very epicentre of danger does that which saves continue to grow - provided one knows, believes and wants it."

2018-01-15 01:53:05 UTC  

I think this disappointment in Trump is unfounded. Anyone who has been watching the news regarding immigration trends, ICE undates, public opinion polls, etc. should be ecstatic.

2018-01-15 01:53:40 UTC  

If you expected anything more than what he has been doing your expectations are unrealistic.

2018-01-15 01:54:09 UTC  

He's holding so many doors of opportunity for us it's practically a miracle.

2018-01-15 01:58:33 UTC  

[pg. 29] "The worst wars are the undeclared ones. They break out quietly, like an uneasy breeze, and are the harshest, most deadly.

Europe today faces the greatest danger in her history, a danger threatening the very existence of her civilisation. For she is at war and doesn’t even know it. She may sense the danger, but refuses to see it, burying her head in the sand, like the ostrich, hoping to conjure it away.

We Europeans are rapidly and massively being occupied and colonised by peoples from the South and by Islam. We are subject to America’s economic, strategic, and cultural New World Order. The two march hand in hand. We are emasculated by ideologies of decline and by those of a facile optimism, we are menaced by a regression of culture and education toward primitivism and by the faint simulation of prosperity.

2018-01-15 01:59:09 UTC  

Europe is the sick man of the world. It’s obvious in her demographic decline, in her physiological devirilisation, and in the reigning ideology of ethnomasochism, imposed by politically correct censors and the controlled media. We are gnawed at from within and attacked from without. We are set upon by assailants, occupiers, and collaborators, who make up the majority of the political, media, and intellectual classes, whether of the Right or the Left. The people have yet to see it because their shopping carts are still full. And though everyone may secretly suspect that the war has begun, the majority denies it, because for the moment no one has the courage to fight it. For the moment. . ."

2018-01-15 02:03:06 UTC  

[pg. 34] "We should also be wary of certain spiritual, metaphysical, and, so-called ‘philosophical’ tendencies. Wary especially of those impostors who call themselves ‘theologians’ in the confines of their office... though a spiritual renewal is absolutely necessary - for the sake of Europe’s rebirth - and against materialistic narcissism, which is the primal cause of her present tragedy.

Spirituality is not spiritualism. It isn’t something to be decreed or instrumentalised, like a computer program. I’m a devoted reader of Evola, particularly of his extraordinary political and social-philosophical texts, but take heed of ‘Evolianism’ (and the even more dangerous ‘Guénonism’) that turns away from practical, tangible issues. Reflection must serve action and is not to be confused with metaphysical tautologies. I particularly address this warning to my Italian friends.

Distrust is no less warranted in respect to that artificial and instrumentalised ‘paganism’ that threatens to succumb to either a New Age disconnected from any worldly struggle, or worse, in the name of a badly understood polytheism, to xenophilia and a catastrophic ‘Love of the Other" I should add that I have...

2018-01-15 02:04:34 UTC  

long considered myself a pagan, fully pagan, allied to traditional Catholicism, and a friend of Hinduism, but a fierce adversary of the desert’s totalitarian monotheisms. 

A similar prudence is needed in respect to Catholic charismatic spirituality, with its enervating mysticism, and particularly its destructively pacifist dismissal of ethnicity and the will to power.

We need, in a word, to be alert to demobilising mysticisms, to a pretentious but hollow intellectualism, to easy refuge in a 'spirtuality' or 'philosophy' whose attitudes, postures, and loopholes are ultimately tangential to the resistance.

2018-01-15 02:06:32 UTC  

[pg. 37] "Contrary to the prevailing belief, it's not economic or military power, nor its social constitution or political independence, that in the last instance determines the longevity of a people or civilisation. These elements are extremely important, but they are part of the superstructure. The base of everything is biocultural identity and demographic renewal."

2018-01-15 02:08:38 UTC  

[pg. 38] "Today, as night descends on them, European peoples need to consciously see themselves as a people, for they have less than a century to save their germen and their civilisation. The Twenty-first century will be the decisive century, specifically its early decades. More than ever, the old military adage - 'vanquish or die!' - assumes its pertinence. If the generation of native Europeans which turns 20 between 2000 and 2010 doesn't act, everything will be lost - forever - as the spirit of those who built the great cathedrals is finally extinguished. East Europeans won't even be able to aid their brothers in the West, for they too are sick."

2018-01-15 02:09:11 UTC  

pg. 38] "The key issues facing the future won't be about financing start-ups, finding a place in the political system for women, or looking out for the 'gay community', but rather about determining the outcome of the coming clash between Europe and the Islamic world colonising her: will Europeans remain the majority of the European population; will they be able to check the dramatic degradation of the Earth's environment, etc?"

2018-01-15 02:12:29 UTC  

[pg. 39] "Why do we fight? We don't fight for 'the cause of peoples', because the identity of every people is its own concern, not ours, and because history is a cemetery of peoples and civilisation. We fight only for the cause of our own people's destiny. Our political activities - the most quotidian cultural or metapolitical, the most down-to-earth, the most humble activities, even in the formulation of our practical programs - are guided by the imperative of all Grand Politics: that is, by the struggle for the heritage of our ancestors and the future of our children."

2018-01-15 02:15:48 UTC  

We need to reorient people to the big picture and leave out less important squabbles. "What matters most at this point is a unifying ideological platform. When the house is on fire, domestic disputes are put on hold."

2018-01-15 02:17:33 UTC  

[pg.39] "European civilisation is gangrened with the cosmopolitanism that comes with the Western system, which it helped create, as Nietzsche saw in an earlier phase of its decay. Europe’s destiny in this sense is tragic. 

The main cause of her decline is the maturation of those Eighteenth century ideas of equality and individualism that came at the expense of our communal, national, and ethnic consciousness. Another cause is the secularisation of Judaeo-Christian universalistic and egalitarian - values. A third is the materialistic frenzy constitutive of the bourgeois spirit.

Europeans as such are themselves responsible for the ills afflicting them: the ills of the declining birth rate, Third World and Islamic colonisation, deculturation, American domination, strategic feeblemindedness, etc. They have, in effect, allowed their enemies to pollute their spirit and corrupt their body."

2018-01-15 02:21:10 UTC  

pg. 41] "Far from becoming a ‘planetary civilisation: a global village, the planet is today being organised into competing ethnic/identitarian blocs. The mixing of cultures and the abolition of identities are not part of the Twenty-first-century’s project. India, China, Black Africa, the Arab-Muslim or Turkish-Muslim world, etc., are affirming their identities, tolerating neither a colonising immigration nor a cultural mélange on their soil. Only our pseudo-European elites defend the dogma of a ‘mixed planet’, which is pure illusion."

2018-01-15 02:29:59 UTC  

[pg. 52] "Islam strives for revenge and conquest. The United States - logically from its geostrategic perspective - endeavours to neutralise Europe, whose unification threatens American hegemony and Economic interests on the Continent. To divide Europeans in order to better rule them, the U.S. endeavours to foster war and discord, it favours Islamic immigration, it seeks to prevent a European alliance with Russia and the Slavs, it keeps us under its military tutelage, and it forces us to open our markets without reciprocating, all the while pro-claiming that it’s our protector: this is the logic of America’s perverse hegemony in Europe, which the Europe of nation-states, no less than the Europe of Maastricht and Amsterdam, is unable to defend herself against, because she lacks the will to do so."

2018-01-15 02:35:15 UTC  

[pg. 53] "The disaster of the oil tanker Erika in 1992 reminds us that petroleum energy is the most polluting in the world. The pseudo-ecologists, however, reserve their thunder for nuclear energy, the least polluting form of energy! The reason: oil is a pillar of American hegemony and the financial basis of the Muslim states. Nuclear power, moreover, would make Europe energy independent, which is seen with a jaundiced eye. There exists, as such, an objective alliance between Trotskyist Greens, American interests, and the Muslim states."

2018-01-15 02:37:47 UTC  

[pg. 54]  "Fossil fuels (petroleum, coal, and gas) emit millions of tons of carbon and nitrogen oxides into the atmosphere, which cause cancer (more than the mythical radiation) and diminish the ozone layer, responsible for the greenhouse effect, which raises temperatures and causes climatic disturbances. In France alone, nuclear energy avoids emitting 78,000 tons of dust, 1.1 million tons of nitrogen dioxide, 2 million tons of sulphur dioxide, and 337 million tons of carbon dioxide, the gases that are the most polluting and the most destructive to health. Thanks to her nuclear capacity, France has reduced 70 percent of the polluting gases that come from electrical production, while the other 30 percent are emitted by gas-based motors and cars, which is more than all the waste produced by her industry! Thanks to nuclear energy, France (whose electrical production is the most advanced in the world) pollutes the atmosphere less than any of her EU partners: 6.9 tons of carbon dioxide per inhabitant, against the European average of 8.15 tons and the German average of 11 tons."

2018-01-15 02:38:32 UTC  

[pg. 56] "What disturbs our neo-Leftist ecologists is the objective power (military and economic) and independence that nuclear power offers Europe, as well as its technological implications. There’s a distinct logic to the Left’s struggle: weaken the European devil, censure her traditions and ancestral memories, defuse her technological and military power, smother her independence, corrupt her mores, and destroy her ethnic germen through immigration. Its anti-nuclear and propetroleum stances are but part of a concerted, multifaceted strategy to destroy the identity and continuity of European civilisation. The Left’s environmental concerns and defence of public health are simply crude, oily pretexts."

2018-01-15 02:42:26 UTC  

Main point is to get away from Saudi influences through energy independence. Fossil fuels cause a lot of damage, asthma, cancer, etc. Nuclear is clean until is destroys an area for thousands of years. Fusion, on the other hand, would be ideal when we figure it out.

2018-01-15 02:44:12 UTC  

If I remember correctly, an EMP attack could shut down electric for months, but nuclear reactors only have back up for weeks. Can they shut down in time? What if they are unattended?

2018-01-15 02:45:15 UTC  

Who would say 'yes'? The same gov that inspected the platforms in the gulf?

2018-01-15 02:46:48 UTC  

[pg. 59] "Everyone talks about the ‘new economy’ that is, the economy based on multimedia telecommunications and information services provided by the Internet, which have supposedly ushered in a second Golden Age. This magical talk, with its euphoric sensibility, simply reiterates the old progressive, scientistic illusions. In fact, it’s just another neo-liberal imposture, whose modernist hegemony is presently coming to an end. For the ‘new economy’ may well culminate in disaster.

The internet and the 'new technologies' are no ‘revolution’, but a simple evolution and, undoubtedly, one of great fragility. Founded on the globalisation of trade, techno-science, and the instantaneity of informatron, the ‘new economy’ is actually more than a century old.

2018-01-15 02:47:10 UTC  

Online sales, for instance, are only an improvement of the older forms of mail order sales introduced around 1850, and correspond to no structural change. Similarly, not the Internet, nor multimedia cell phones, TV networks, smart cards, the general ‘informationisation‘ of society, or genetic engineering represent a fundamental structural change, but are, rather, the ‘elaboration’ of already existing things. For none of these so-called new technologies are comparable to the real upheavals, the real techno-economic metamorphoses, that occurred between 1860 and 1960 - and completely revolutionised life and society - with internal combustion engines, electricity, the telephone, the telegraph, the radio (far more revolutionary than television), the railroad, the airplane, penicillin, antibiotics, etc. The new technologies are behind us! There has been no fundamental innovation since 1960: computers have only been reconceived, and made faster and cheaper than what already existed. In contrast, the automobile, antibiotics, telecommunication, and air travel were authentic revolutions making possible things that had previously been impossible."

2018-01-15 02:47:16 UTC  

@Algrin "Bailey" Bagley - PA Can nuclear reactors shut down? Yeah, you need a guy sitting in the seat pushing the buttons and changing the rods.

2018-01-15 02:49:11 UTC  

@John O - Fukishima was a disaster. It seems that it can't be that easy. I wish nuclear power could save us. But I don't trust the gov if they say its safe.

2018-01-15 02:49:55 UTC  

Gotya. Yeah, it's complicated, but you have very competent people running them (usually)

2018-01-15 02:50:40 UTC  

I gotta get out of here. Good talk, guys

2018-01-15 02:51:17 UTC  

@John O - thanks for joining us man!

2018-01-15 02:53:38 UTC  

20% growth forever! All else be damned! .... what could go wrong?

2018-01-15 02:56:53 UTC  

Thank you everyone! Goodnight.

2018-01-15 02:57:09 UTC  

thanks for joining us, @DCViking

2018-01-15 02:57:43 UTC  

The short sighted people who are making quick money now will still make money in the collapse. They make money in peace and war, ... good times and bad.

2018-01-15 03:03:16 UTC  

Y'all have a good night!

2018-01-15 03:03:52 UTC  

Thanks for joining us, @Marseille

2018-01-15 03:04:02 UTC  

I'm out as well. Will be here next time.

2018-01-15 03:04:10 UTC  

Thanks for the discussion

2018-01-15 03:04:18 UTC  

Nice talking to you man, thanks for contributing!