Message from ThisIsChris in Literature Club #discussion_botm

2018-02-06 02:03:43 UTC  

@John O - I love Alt Hype and never miss a video, but on that one it may be a bit of "just so" thinking. That would require those people executed to have not had any children, or at least to have had far fewer children than the others in the population.

2018-02-06 02:04:19 UTC  

Yeah, the math isn't perfect, and he admits it, and he accounts for that

2018-02-06 02:04:23 UTC  

It's an interesting hypothesis and I like thinking about those sorts of things, but I don't think that's "all the way there" in terms of an explanation.

2018-02-06 02:04:40 UTC  

SOCIETY, MARKET - One of the appellations of present Western society — in which the market (or economic) function takes the place of the sovereign function and becomes the ultima ratio[236] — the ultimate and unique horizon against which all political decisions are made.

This term is preferable to that of ‘capitalist society’. For it’s not a matter of condemning the market economy, but rather of deploring the market’s dictatorship over every other consideration (ecological, ethnic, aesthetic, social, etc.). The market can’t be everything and material exchanges can’t be the basis of social relations. In market society, everything has a price, but nothing is of value.

2018-02-06 02:04:40 UTC  

I don't think he *does* account for it.

2018-02-06 02:05:11 UTC  

Until you show me that those that got killed had no children, or 2 children, rather than 8, or something...

2018-02-06 02:06:05 UTC  

What happened with the Asians, then? They're less violent than Whites are. Were they running around executing too? Over what timeframe? It reeks of the sort of "just so" thinking that's in Guns Germs and Steel.

2018-02-06 02:06:12 UTC  

That's totally unprovable, and a common theme of Alt Hype is unprovable hypothesis. That's the problem with being an autodidact

2018-02-06 02:06:19 UTC  


2018-02-06 02:06:30 UTC  

I love it. "The Unprovable Hypothesis"

2018-02-06 02:06:57 UTC  

I always take him with a grain of salt. I never believe anything he says, it's just something to think on

2018-02-06 02:07:07 UTC  

Again I'm not casting shade on him, he's like one of my favorites.

2018-02-06 02:07:18 UTC  

He does excellent work.

2018-02-06 02:07:21 UTC  

He totally denies any European genocide of Native Americans, which is insane

2018-02-06 02:07:32 UTC  

Yeah that's a bit strange.

2018-02-06 02:07:32 UTC  

it was unintentional

2018-02-06 02:07:52 UTC  

they carried small pox with them that the indians had no immunity to

2018-02-06 02:08:05 UTC  

Well, there was Andrew Jackson as well

2018-02-06 02:08:05 UTC  

My understanding of Native American genocide comes from the Iron Maiden song "Run to the Hills".

2018-02-06 02:08:13 UTC  

And many like Jackson

2018-02-06 02:08:26 UTC  

I feel like a better path is to just say "yeah whites killed native americans, inter-civilizational conflict is nothing new"

2018-02-06 02:08:27 UTC  

i deny the indian shoah too, the indians were killing eachother, just like africans kill eachother

2018-02-06 02:08:32 UTC  

but so many died before jackson

2018-02-06 02:08:54 UTC  

That doesn't mean Europeans didn't also kill them @Deleted User

2018-02-06 02:08:55 UTC  

that's like saying any battle is a genocide

2018-02-06 02:09:30 UTC  

this is the true story of the Native American genocide:

2018-02-06 02:09:37 UTC  

I mispoke, he doesn't deny a genocide, he denies any drop in population after Europeans showed up

2018-02-06 02:09:50 UTC  

Which is crazy too, John.

2018-02-06 02:09:55 UTC  

just cause they insisted on fighting and losing doesny mean its a genocide
tfw galaxybrain

2018-02-06 02:09:58 UTC  

Populations here were in flux already.

2018-02-06 02:10:03 UTC  

THIRD WORLDISM - Doctrine, on the Left and Right, which claims the Third World has been ‘exploited’ — and that it’s advisable to aid it, unceasingly, with financial and technological transfers, and to welcome its migrants.

Third Worldism is a snake that swallows its own tail: in claiming to aid poor countries, it deserts and divests itself of all actual responsibility for them. It imposes on these lands a Western economic model, destructive of local economies. One pities the Third World in terms of a self-culpabilising charity.

2018-02-06 02:11:03 UTC  


2018-02-06 02:11:04 UTC  

the difference between liberia and the ivory coast

2018-02-06 02:11:40 UTC  

Third World parasitism takes the following forms: 1. Direct financial costs in the form of lost loans, Europeanfinanced exports, the annulment of debt, etc. 2 . The cost of technical aid and cooperation, as well as technological transfers. Despite massive aid, no African or Arab country has ever attained even a modicum of economic balance. 3. The cost of exploiting raw materials in the Third World. For fifty years we’ve been told that we exploited the countries of the South. Their petroleum, raw materials, and their agriculture would, though, be of no use to Europe, if she thought geopolitically — in terms of a ‘Eurosiberian space’. No Muslim oil exporter, for example, would be able to exploit the subsoil reserves of his country on his own. These reserves have been discovered and exploited by foreign companies, who pay an enormous rent for them. Eurosiberia would have no need of Third World resources. 4 . The worst, the heaviest burden: dumping its excess population in Europe, which is equivalent to overwhelming her demographically and hamstringing her with an economic ball and chain.

2018-02-06 02:11:59 UTC  

@Zyzz kek

2018-02-06 02:12:40 UTC  

TRADITION, TRADITIONALISM - Tradition is the ensemble of a people’s values and cultural structures, which are transmitted (tradere in Latin) from generation to generation — to form the scaffolding of its collective memory.

2018-02-06 02:14:32 UTC  
2018-02-06 02:14:34 UTC  
2018-02-06 02:14:59 UTC  

VALUES - Idea-forces and life rules that are translated into behaviours and transcend individual egoism, since they have no immediate utility, but constitute a long-term necessity for a community’s survival.

Some of the fundamental values, for example, are:
• A refusal of massification, as well as a narcissistic individualism,
• An affirmation of the creative inequality of the human race,
• Concern for a people and its historical destiny,
• Loyalty to a lineage (ethnic consciousness),
• Individual freedom as self-discipline,
• The precedence of communal solidarity over egoism,
• Cult of the aesthetic,
• Respect for life’s selectivity — and not ‘all’ life,
• The spirit of enterprise and creation . . .

2018-02-06 02:15:55 UTC  

UNIVERSALISM - The belief that humanity forms a homogeneous ensemble, a single family, in which notions of people and identity are secondary.

An avatar of egalitarian ideology, universalism is a political monotheism, the parent of all totalitarianisms. The individual for it is but ‘a citizen of the world’. All cultures are destined to fuse and no inequalities of nature or quality exist between them.

2018-02-06 02:16:59 UTC  

A belief in Universalism is hurting us big time.