Message from @CarletonJ

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2018-03-20 19:19:16 UTC  

Through

2018-03-20 22:49:50 UTC  

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2018-03-21 18:18:32 UTC  

I started reading the book last night, I'm only 20 pages in but did anyone else crack up at the judge and lawyer story?

2018-03-21 18:18:58 UTC  

"Fuck you, Campbell."

2018-03-21 18:37:29 UTC  

@shekelsworth I didn’t understand that all that well

2018-03-21 18:39:48 UTC  

Sounds like the lawyers got shut down

2018-03-21 18:58:38 UTC  

Well he was making a point about how they failed to make change through their actions.

2018-03-21 18:58:46 UTC  

They shoah'd themselves

2018-03-21 19:27:59 UTC  

I can already tell this book is going to be fantastic for what we're dealing with today. I'm not even through the prologue, and already the author has addressed the importance of optics and distancing ourselves from "self stereotype people", aka the alt right and it's LARPers. "

2018-03-21 19:36:46 UTC  

Idk his beliefs are founded on equality, justice, etc and so it seems his layout for revolution might not be achievable without this.

2018-03-21 19:37:10 UTC  

Democracy is the means and not necessarily the ends, is something he eventually says.

2018-03-21 19:38:44 UTC  

And the goal for revolution should be the quality for all. So I don't know if he believes revolutions could be achieved for the your own group.

2018-03-21 19:39:10 UTC  

He's a socialist and that's what he sees as the ideal world. He has good points like the separation of ideology and dogma.

2018-03-21 19:40:27 UTC  

I don't know though I could be reading this very incorrectly.

2018-03-21 19:43:29 UTC  

@shekelsworth he's a far leftist and probably a commie. When I bought this book, books that were "frequently bought" with it was the Communist Manifesto. I shit you not.

2018-03-21 19:44:19 UTC  

We need to use the methods that Marxists have used to become successful. That's why this book is a great read for any activist honestly.

2018-03-21 19:45:06 UTC  

Yeah I guess I just need to get more the methodology.

2018-03-21 19:45:16 UTC  

He's laying out his commie beliefs right now

2018-03-21 19:45:30 UTC  

Haha oh boy.

2018-03-21 19:45:59 UTC  

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2018-03-21 19:50:35 UTC  

@shekelsworth *insert Soviet anthem"

2018-03-21 19:51:20 UTC  

Yeah, we have to ignore his personal beliefs and opinions and learn from his methods.

2018-03-21 19:54:20 UTC  

I guess we could stop reading once he's gets to "argue(ing) that the failure to use power for more equitable distribution of the means of life for all people signals the end of the revolution in the start of the counter-revolution." 😂😂😂

2018-03-21 19:56:32 UTC  

Hahaha yes just glance over that section.

2018-03-21 21:08:41 UTC  

I wrote up a draft of an article I was going to submit for the Identitarian, it's about 1500 words. Anyone willing to take a look at it and tell me what they think?

2018-03-23 02:56:18 UTC  

I finished the book in my flight. It has some good stuff, but it's very obvious that he is writing this book for communists and leftists.

2018-03-23 04:22:59 UTC  

@JC17-OR you are exactly correct. The book came out quite sometime ago - when communism and Marxism was basically forbidden to discuss. His methods worked. Now, communism is an acceptable ideology taught in our universities. We must use the methods our opposition used to become successful.

2018-03-23 04:24:16 UTC  

Ignore his political opinions and take from him his political methods.

2018-03-23 04:24:59 UTC  

I'll be discussing in detail more about this Monday during our voice discussion.

2018-03-23 05:20:19 UTC  

@CarletonJ

Definitely, the big takeaways from this book that I've seen this far is the development of communication, how our phrases affect our optics, and how we and our enemies perceive each other's ethics and influence.

Looking forward to the Monday discussion.

2018-03-23 05:20:37 UTC  

I'll likely circle back and re-read some stuff.

2018-03-24 15:54:47 UTC  

2018-03-24 15:55:35 UTC  

Welcome, @björn , there's your full access

2018-03-24 15:59:32 UTC  

Thanks @John O -

2018-03-24 21:44:05 UTC  

2018-03-24 22:42:04 UTC  

You're all set, @Deleted User. Welcome to the ILC server! Let me know if you have any questions. Feel free to join us Monday at 8p EST for our first discussion on the book "Rules For Radicals."

2018-03-24 22:42:34 UTC  

thanks!

2018-03-26 22:15:02 UTC  

I still haven't gotten my book in the mail yet,got 1 that i ordered same day that came today but not the Rules for Radicals book yet.

2018-03-26 22:16:02 UTC  

@celticflame When do you expect it? I could overnight you a copy tomorrow.

2018-03-26 22:17:23 UTC  

I hope it gets here tomorrow since i ordered it same day,should be here soon. Let me see if i can track it,get back to you

2018-03-26 22:17:31 UTC  

@celticflame sure thing!