Message from @givemetheafd

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2018-04-20 00:26:01 UTC  

Not in todays world

2018-04-20 00:28:42 UTC  

I have to agree. In a time before such rampant degeneracy was the norm, it would go without saying that living together before marriage would be a bad move. Unfortunately, because so many people engage in antisocial behaviour, I would think it would be advisable to spend at least a year together under the same roof before you get married. Maybe move in together after your engagement, but I don't think it's wise to never cohabitate before it's too late. Living together gives you an opportunity to see what someone is really like. Unfortunately, you really can do that, unless you spend most of your free time together

2018-04-20 00:28:43 UTC  

How can you advance a relationship if marraige is not possible at the moment?

2018-04-20 00:29:39 UTC  

Unfortunately getting married is not as easy as it used to be

2018-04-20 00:30:48 UTC  

@John O - Just because something is the norm does not make it moral.

2018-04-20 00:31:46 UTC  

@SamanthaM that's not the point I was making. I was making the point that in order to find out if someone is really who they say they are, you have to spend a majority of your free time with them, and that is really only possible if you live together

2018-04-20 00:32:27 UTC  

And with the high divorce rate it is good to be 100% sure you can sustain a marraige.

2018-04-20 00:33:01 UTC  

I have heard people say living together makes you more likely to break up, but I think those people went in with the wrong intentions

2018-04-20 00:33:22 UTC  

For example you don't move in together to only save money

2018-04-20 00:33:36 UTC  

@John O - That I'd agree with. Everything is fine up to the point of cohabitation.

2018-04-20 00:36:17 UTC  

That's what I'm saying, though. I, and many other young people like me spend well beyond 40 hours at work every week. I don't have time every day to spend with people who don't live in my house. Before I marry a woman, I want a trial period of at least a year under the same roof so that I can get to know them as well as possible. Spending two or three days together a week isn't nearly enough.

2018-04-20 00:38:43 UTC  

Please excuse the typos, I'm using voice to text

2018-04-20 00:39:08 UTC  

I'm gonna have to agree with John on this one

2018-04-20 00:39:29 UTC  

I don't see how it's immoral per say

2018-04-20 00:40:03 UTC  

I absolutely see how it's immoral, however, it's an unfortunate reality of the times we live in

2018-04-20 00:40:34 UTC  

Yeah the cost of a wedding and then buying a house combined is insane

2018-04-20 00:40:51 UTC  

Huh?

2018-04-20 00:42:58 UTC  

Weddings don't have to be expensive. Lots of fantastic ways to save.

2018-04-20 00:43:19 UTC  

At least where I live if you want a good wedding its probably at least 15k, then if you want a house in a good town/neighborhood its at least 300k

2018-04-20 00:43:27 UTC  

My parents got married in a park for next to nothing

2018-04-20 00:43:41 UTC  

yeah how do we avoid the wedding ((()))

2018-04-20 00:44:05 UTC  

Everyone has their own preference, but I would like my friends and family to be there.

2018-04-20 00:45:01 UTC  

@SamanthaM again, I just want to stress that you are correct, cohabitating is immoral, I just don't see a way around it

2018-04-20 00:45:18 UTC  

Major cost is the reception. Holding it at someone's home is a great way to save on that expense.

2018-04-20 00:45:23 UTC  

Pretty sure the wedding is expensive as *you* make it

2018-04-20 00:46:06 UTC  

unless you need a church or what not for religious stuffs

2018-04-20 00:46:34 UTC  

@John O - It's tough. Sin in the modern world is almost unavoidable.

2018-04-20 00:46:41 UTC  

Im glad ive found people who agree that living together isnt wholesome

2018-04-20 00:46:54 UTC  

redpill me on how it's a sin

2018-04-20 00:46:58 UTC  

I need to start going to Church again

2018-04-20 00:47:36 UTC  

@Deleted User because it leads to premarital sex

2018-04-20 00:47:58 UTC  

Some couples who live together are basically married but without the formality

2018-04-20 00:48:09 UTC  

*most

2018-04-20 00:48:13 UTC  

eh, I guess I can see that

2018-04-20 00:48:39 UTC  

Putting yourself in situations where someone you love is sleeping right next to you = premarital sex

2018-04-20 00:48:53 UTC  

Which is avoidable

2018-04-20 00:49:54 UTC  

I don't know, man, if I'm living with a girl, I'm not going to pull the fifties married couple different bed shit

2018-04-20 00:50:30 UTC  

that was only in movies

2018-04-20 00:50:41 UTC  

if youre married, I think youre allowed to

2018-04-20 00:51:05 UTC  

I know. I was just pointing out an example

2018-04-20 00:55:41 UTC  

Ignoring the religious aspect, this article points out some detrimental statistics concerning cohabitation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/mylordandmyblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/seven-reasons-why-living-together-before-marriage-is-not-a-good-idea/amp/