I'll have to check both those out, thanks bois.

@Attrition in the desert#6260 that’s was julien I believe and no it wasn’t because he was being too chad but too rapey

Convo from <#436337973001322508> that belongs here:

>Is money really that attractive to women
The base biological value that women bring to a relationship is fertility and the base value that men bring is resources.

Most things men first notice in a women are indicators of fertility.

Most things women first notice in a man are indicators of resources and the ability to acquire resources.

Indeed, sexual market value like Stefan molyneux talks about.

I think it’s important to display your resources in a non tacky way. Taking it to the extreme, I think it looks tacky for a 20 something to drive around in a Ferrari or to wear a very expensive watch. The question here is how to display our resources in a non tacky manner that will attract the right girls rather than those looking for a meal ticket.

Why not discuss your ambition to own a decent home.

The relationship between men and women is complimentary. I.e. Men provide the resources, women utilize the resources to create and nurture a family/community.

Therefore, women are looking for a man who is responsible with his money and can provide for the long-term. Someone who isn't interested in wasting it on fancy luxury items.

Zyzz makes a fantastic point.

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@everyone ^^^

Work out. Eat right. Increase your testosterone. Be a dick. Be fun. You’ll do ok.

tender aggression is the key

If I wear my Omega watch and some gold, is that tacky, or superior?

Ask yourself, do I look like a Persian dude dressing up?

I don't, I was wondering what a woman's perspective was, I should have clarified.

Just get this tatted on your chest so she knows you're not only rich, but have great taste

Put that thing away.

@John O - owo

So this girl at my church, when I first asked her on a date she said she was too busy with schoolwork when she cancelled our first planned date on me. Then when the semester ended I asked her again and she said she was busy with graduation, so I told her to let me know if she's ever free. But now graduation is over, do I try again to schedule a date or do I just consider this ship sailed unless she reaches out to me?

If she was interested she would have found time

that was my thinking

^^^

but she also just graduated from high school

so she's not the most mature person

obviously

she's only a couple years younger than me, before anyone says anything about that

If shes down, she will make the effort to contact YOU.

Young girls like that are fickle as hell

ship status: sailed

eyes toward the future i guess

Indeed mein freund

Next time that happens, press a little harder, like "well you're going to need a snack break. Let's meet at _________"

i probably could've done something like that

i was worried about coming on too strong

maybe me asking when the semester was over is what did that

Yea of course you were worried about that. It's hard to find the right balance.

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola if you have nothing to lose socially, go for it again. If she's part of your church and you're worried about a bad reputation, lay off of it

i think i might just give it time

and if we interact in person at church more

maybe give it a shot

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola my experience was that people weren't really stable people when it came to dating until they were 23. I assume it's something about hormones and settling down, not really sure. Also I don't think it's a hard rule, but I would use it as a guideline. Not sure how old you are but dating a woman slightly older than you isn't bad if you want to give the 23+ thing a shot.