Message from @TMatthews

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2018-10-08 00:52:35 UTC  

No date is arranged yet. Perhaps jinxing it... We'll see. I'm trying to get contacts and a haircut before the first meet up.
And back to church for at least a week or two. She's a pastor's daughter. -__-'
I read most of the New Testament this summer, and listen to the godcast weekly. So I'm pretty well versed in scripture.
That could be my biggest difficulty.

2018-10-08 00:53:08 UTC  

Don't want to be "that guy" that just goes to church for le trad waifu, though.

2018-10-08 00:53:10 UTC  

Project confidence

2018-10-08 00:53:52 UTC  

I have lost 35 lbs in seven weeks, thanks to keto and lifting.

2018-10-08 00:54:15 UTC  

I want to be "that guy"

2018-10-08 00:54:56 UTC  

If that means acquiring a trad waifu

2018-10-08 01:19:19 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN good luck man. My gf isn't a pastor's daughter but she is pretty close considering her family is the only family in Australia who are members of my church and her father leads their Sunday worship services. Try to get on good terms with her father. It's really important for actual trad girls that you have the approval of their male family members.

2018-10-08 01:20:32 UTC  

@Der Seeteufel - SD Thanks, and absolutely. Going to do this slow and right if at all.

2018-10-08 01:22:37 UTC  

Definitely keep going to church too and don't feel bad for going just for a girl. If that's how the Holy Spirit got you in the door that was God's plan.

2018-10-08 01:24:05 UTC  

Any good places to find trad waifus (I can't believe I just typed that) besides church?

2018-10-08 01:24:54 UTC  

I feel like any relationship started through church would be a lie since I don't believe

2018-10-08 01:25:33 UTC  

@TMatthews In my opinion no.

2018-10-08 01:26:40 UTC  

@TMatthews Shooting clubs? I almost said "farmers market" or "rodeo" but then again those are weird places to try to start a conversation.

2018-10-08 01:29:08 UTC  

This is purely anecdotal but everyone I know who has an actual trad relationship started it in church. I'm not saying you can't find good girls elsewhere but it's a lot harder. I tried for many years before I finally gave in and asked my pastor for help and he literally found me my current gf in less than a month and she is perfect.

2018-10-08 01:30:35 UTC  

Damn bro, nice.

2018-10-08 01:30:50 UTC  

As far as not being a believer goes that doesn't really worry me. Most people aren't. Just go to church anyway. You don't have to lie to anyone just go and listen. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

2018-10-08 01:32:34 UTC  

It would be an implicit lie at a minimum to go through the process of pretending to be a Christian just to get a gf

2018-10-08 01:33:23 UTC  

I don't think it would be that bad to explain to the girl that you are struggling with having faith and want to embrace the sense of community that church offers.

2018-10-08 01:34:50 UTC  

Don't pretend to be a Christian. Go to church, listen, and take part in the community. Tell people what you are doing and why. Tell them you haven't been able to establish good relationships and that even though you aren't a believer you thought church would be a good place to start.

2018-10-08 01:35:23 UTC  

Blessed and Bread-pilled
^(don't say that IRL)

2018-10-08 01:35:29 UTC  

I suppose. I made a real effort at converting last fall. Tried praying every night and whatnot. Never felt anything. To be fair, I didn't go to a physical church, but I didn't have a car either

2018-10-08 01:37:07 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN - I'm glad for you either way. Seems like you're pretty excited about this girl. If you're struggling or something feel free to reach out, whether for advice or just someone to listen. I've recently had a rather devastating split with a girl, and helping out other guys is really something that's made me feel better about it all.

2018-10-08 01:38:47 UTC  

@Aleis⊕ccidentalis Thanks. And I'm sorry to hear that. It's been about a year since my last break up. I'll keep you in the loop!
Although I haven't talked to this girl too much recently. She might be dumb. I hope not! Let's find out.

2018-10-08 01:39:35 UTC  

*Varg emoji*

2018-10-08 01:40:21 UTC  

@TMatthews I think you are looking at it the wrong way. You shouldn't be trying to "feel" something. God is in everything so trying to feel his presence is like a fish trying to feel wet. Participate in the fellowship of believers and you will see positive outcomes in your life.

2018-10-08 01:41:46 UTC  

Also these things take time. For some of the saints it took entire lifetimes to rationalize their faith.

2018-10-08 01:42:17 UTC  

Let's try to keep this thread on courtship in relation to church and not a theological discussion.

2018-10-08 01:42:17 UTC  

@Der Seeteufel - SD I think this is a widespread thing. People expect to see a vision or feel a voice. I dont' know if it's the media conditioning, or just shitty pastors, but it's a 'missing feeling' I've also dealt with.

2018-10-08 01:42:31 UTC  

@Attrition in the desert Understood. Sorry.

2018-10-08 01:45:03 UTC  

Ok. My advice for courtship is as follows. Step 1. Go to church. Step 2. Meet trad GF. Step 3. Trust God will take care of things. Step 4. At least 7 kids. (I'm going for 8)

2018-10-08 01:45:04 UTC  

I'm not even sure where I'd go to find a trad church. I've met girls through college republicans, but it's fair to say conservative doesn't really describe them in their personal lives. I guess that's to be expected when you're at a college in the northeast

2018-10-08 01:46:29 UTC  

@Der Seeteufel - SD Lofty goals. Good luck though. Always good to have more IE babies

2018-10-08 01:47:12 UTC  

@TMatthews I'm told the go-to are SSPX catholic, Orthodox, and Confessional Lutheran.

2018-10-08 01:47:54 UTC  
2018-10-08 01:48:11 UTC  

SSPX aren’t Catholic

2018-10-08 01:49:09 UTC  

@SamanthaM I don't have any experience with them, I just hear about them on Fatherland and Godcast 😑

2018-10-08 01:52:46 UTC  

@SamanthaM Thanks, I'll read up on them.

2018-10-08 02:07:10 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN. Normal Catholic works too and there are a lot more.

2018-10-08 02:07:42 UTC  

But my recommendation to meet people outside of church is to take night classes

2018-10-08 02:08:02 UTC  

I'm partial, of course, since I met my wife at one