@SamanthaM I don't think so, that's effectively what my wife and I are going for. Actually in my view I think it is quite normal as (professional and stable) people get older that they strongly consider having their own small business, and only don't do so if they have a great opportunity elsewhere.

i wouldnt force him into it, no. with that said he should be able to understand the opportunity you have and be willing to let you do what you need to do

he may want to pursue another career path and thats fine

@SamanthaM in reflecting on what @Zyzz says, I do think it's better to focus on finding a life partner apart from finding a business partner. If those line up it's a coincidence. There's other ways to keep your spouse close during the work day without them having to co-manage a business with you.

@SamanthaM would you be mobile with your business or would you need to stay where youre at? is it that he didnt want to live where you live?

@Zyzz Good question. Theoretically, I could move the business anywhere in the continental U.S., but the vast majority of our clients are in the Mid-Atlantic. Also, there are some family circumstances that prevent a major move.

@ThisIsChris What you and your wife have is definitely ideal. But you're right, it would be unfair to expect someone to make a career switch.

@SamanthaM my grandmother used to say "god closes one door and opens another". i would try to keep an eye out for the next one

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola it's all about reading their body langauge man. If you get eye contact or smiling that is very good. If she positions herself near you or so you can clearly see her that is good too. And if she touches you in any way that is a dead giveaway.

http://launch.newsinc.com/?type=VideoPlayer/Single&widgetId=1&trackingGroup=69016&playlistId=19132&siteSection=ktla_morningnews&videoId=25248279

"How to get out of the friend zone" ^^

The best way to get out of the friend zone is to not get in it in the first place. i.e. first impressions are important

they set the pace of the rest of the interactions

I have a little theory about the friend zone... your personality worked, your attractiveness didn’t... therefore, you are friend zoned.

In harsher words, stop being unattractive

Haha

yep ^

Or just being too much of a friend. Being too available, and too open, etc

Nothing makes them want you more than apathy

Or at least controlled apathy

Ex. Don’t message them back as soon as you are receiving messages, don’t act like it is all or nothing, desperation is a major “turn off”

True

Women crave attention more than anything else, so play it aloof and they will respond to you.

I found my fiancé on accident, remember those women you were friends with in school? That is a good place to start, perhaps unrequited love is why they stayed around you?

Just message them, your maturity and familiarity may be just what the doctor ordered.

Yea I think you are right on that analysis

@missliterallywho

Well his analysis too I suppose

@missliterallywho congrats again on the child

Yea I’ve still got a lot of growing up to do and need to work on making myself a better person physically and mentally before I’m ready for something.
.
Congrats on finding someone whom your love and your first child. That’s awesome you met them through IE

Same!

@missliterallywho Thank you for the advice! Yes, the idea of marriage can be intimidating. Makes complete sense. 😃 Congratulations on your first child!! That’s so awesome ❤️

@missliterallywho the ChadanChad?

(The Chad of Chads)

@Sherlock I had the same problem with finding a place to meet women and honestly I'm sorry to say it's really tough. I was looking for years and when I finally found her she's on the other side of the planet and everything is more difficult than I expected.

All that being said, they are out there. I of course recommend going to church. It's the best way in my opinion to find an actually traditional woman. If that's not your thing though you should still be setting aside at least one day per week to engage with a community of your choosing. Maybe your thing will be cars, hunting, bowling, or community gardening. The point is just get out there and grow your non-political social network. Even if what you do is a primarily male hobby people have sisters and daughters and they will be much more comfortable with you if you are part of their community.

Forget about all the PUA bull that people are selling on the internet. Social engagement and social proof is how you meet and attract women.

Also if you want to convert to Hardcore German Lutheranism I promised my girlfriend that I'd help her sister find a husband.

Haha I don’t reckon I’m much the religious type. I wish I were because like you said it would be a lot easier to meet a girl worth meeting. Thank you for the advice. Building a better social network does seem to be the key.

Agree with @Der Seeteufel - SD , PUA will only attract you to women who are attracted by PUA. I'd also reiterate what I said to @Sherlock in the other channel, that night classes are a great way to meet people. I meet my wife at a foreign language course.

Foreign language courses are great for this purpose since conversing with others is a goal of the course.

This was recommended to me by another IE member and I’ve found it very helpful.
Models: Attract Women Through Honesty https://www.amazon.com/dp/1463750358/

Isn't a lot of PUA stuff just social skills, though?