I wonder if I'll ever meet identitarians in stores without expecting it

My local Catholic young adults group has far more women than men and they're all traditional. It's great.

We all look so normal it’s hard to realize it

While I was home I struck up a convo with based and redpilled girl in my area. From that wasp love website. However we never got to meet in person. I did ask her to apply to IE if she wanted to get more involved.

@NITRODUBS "we all look so normal it's hard to realize it" Exactly what we look for in IE candidates!

@TMatthews Re: looks and being outgoing, Yes of course I think there is a bare standard for looks a guy should have to be successful in meeting girls but I don't think it's sky high, basically don't be a slob, go to the gym once in a while, and walk a lot (this certainly gets harder if you get a desk job). As for being outgoing I think if you are able to see things from the girl's perspective then you will avoid most social mistakes. Good practice would be to imagine you're hanging out in your quad or w/e, and a girl strikes up a conversation with you. Asking how would you feel and how would you react.

@TMatthews To your comment about looks.

Of course looks matter, but dont use that as an excuse to limit yourself.

Guys like Ryan Gosling show us how to do it. Gosling isn't a classically handsome guy, but he's is in fairly good shape, his clothes are tailored and he keeps a fresh haircut.

Do those basic things while carrying yourself with some genuine confidence, and you are good to go!

@Tyler0317 For me personally, starting a conversation at random wouldn't feel genuine.

I like the idea of a dating app because you can talk a bit and see if the other person is interested in a real relationship (I'm in college, so hookup culture is rampant). I think it's good to start on the same page, but I'm not advising against striking up conversation out of the blue if you're outgoing enough to make it feel natural.

if you are going the app route, I'd at least suggest to stay off tinder and other known hookup platforms.

"starting a conversation at random wouldn't feel genuine"
That's something you could work on.

I would suggest looking at Wasp Love... it’s a dating site catering to like minded ppl. Just be cautious of how u interact with others. However i haven’t met anyone questionable... yet

"Reformed Christian, Quiverfull, Confederate, Homeschooled, Christian Identity, white nationalism, altright, Sovereign Grace"

that's... quite the mix

I'm 33 and single with no kids, so I'm in no position to give advice.

However, I've had considerable success dating "out of my league".

I don't think we should expect to find women on the the same page as us.

We should seek out women where they are (even if that's on tinder). Women want a strong leader of a man. Be that leader, and pull her into your orbit.

I'm thinking about trying bumble. I know it was founded by a feminist, but it requires that people prove they're real and it doesn't inflate women's egos by having a thousand guys messaging them.
Tinder requires Facebook anyway

@ThisIsChris one of our former FL members actually found his wife on tinder. Probably one in a million chance with that said. I just think no stone should go unturned.

@Tyler0317 this, dude. There's no reason to limit yourself to a BASED SHIELD MAIDEN GF

Who cares if a woman isn't an Identitarian? Who cares if she's not Conservative? As long as she's not a screaching feminist, you can build something solid with her

I don’t think tinder requires fb anymore @TMatthews but it does require your phone number

@John O - eh "who cares" seems a bit too far, though you're probably right that it's not a requirement

it definitely would be an advantage to be politically similar

At the end of the day, it's more about values than specific ideology. Does she want to work or stay home? How many kids does she want to have? Thoughts on homeschooling, vaccination, staying close to extended family, how to raise children, etc

I would say she should be able to accept your views even if she doesn't agree with everything. Apolitical or right wing gives better odds of that happening

I see political leanings as related to a persons values. A lot of IE men seem to lean more traditional overall. No she doesn’t have to be full blown identitarian but if she doesn’t care if the 3rd world repopulates America I question if you ever will be able to build something solid with her.

Women tend to lean Left, and men tend to lean Right. The ratio of traditional men to women seems to be not in our favor. At the end of the day, our struggle is about progeny, and if you're too hung up on finding the perfect woman, you'll never progenate. Should you settle for an absolute degenerate pot smoking whore? Of course not. But we are the men among the ruins, and as such, our options are less than ideal. Find a woman with good genetics and have some kids

Women lean towards what is socially acceptable. Right now, that is generally liberalism but it depends on her social circle. Men do this too but to a lesser extent.

Read Game

^ this tbh

Strip out the degeneracy from the PUA stuff and what they teach is actually quite useful to a young man. And not just romantically but in life too

Game is a great book. No to degeneracy, yes to useful rules for social etiquette and self improvement.

@Ryan -NJ which book? Game was what PUA was called before it was called PUA, but it was even more degenerate at the beginning being run by an inner circle around "Mystery" and Neil Strauss who wrote "Game"

@ThisIsChris The name of the book is Game. One of Roosh’s latest.

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I wasn’t sure what I was getting into when I picked up all of Roosh’s books but I was very pleasantly surprised at the wealth of knowledge in Game. It’s the sort of book that forces you to take inventory of all your past epic fails with women and cringe as you reflect on how you sabotaged yourself. I’d highly recommend picking it up.

I never even knew tinder had usernames lol

@ThisIsChris haha my dad had that Neil Strauss book, not sure if he still does

is it that bad?

@Jacob Well, Neil Strauss describes trying to sleep with women as being like a video game, push the right buttons at the right time to rack up points with a girl until you "win". Most of the justifications for his reasoning come from tenuous evolutionary psychology. I also read his follow up book "Rules of the Game" which is an "exercise" each day to do that he thinks teach skills a "pick up artist" needs to know. Certainly put me off to evolutionary psychology as a tool that is used to back up a bunch of BS that doesn't even correspond to real life.

I stopped reading *Rules of the Game* on day 2. Haven't showered since.

Women enjoy a musk

Revolt against the modern shower

It seriously suggests not showering?