Message from @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

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2018-10-08 22:54:41 UTC  

Ah. Well, if you don't drink it away, a season can net you 20k easily. Which could help you into trade school and Euro-GF help

2018-10-08 22:54:43 UTC  

But I don't think I will have the money for trade school and I am not a fan of being in debt and I would've liked to make sure that I could spend time with her every other season.

2018-10-08 22:55:14 UTC  

I don't know/think trade school has summer breaks, but lots of people just do summers.

2018-10-08 22:57:14 UTC  

I mean, she is coming here for Christmas and ideally summer, but idk this deal with this one that I am applying to rn.

2018-10-08 22:57:21 UTC  

Trying to figure out their course times and all that jazz.

2018-10-08 22:57:48 UTC  

Ah. Well a good GF is worth quite a bit. And with welding you can earn a good living, relatively dox resistant (not proof) too.

2018-10-08 22:57:55 UTC  

(nothing is dox proof)

2018-10-08 22:58:27 UTC  

If we lived within the same country, she probably would be more than a gf tbh.

2018-10-08 22:58:54 UTC  

But things work differently over there.

2018-10-08 22:59:07 UTC  

Schule uber alles

2018-10-08 22:59:10 UTC  

All that shit

2018-10-08 22:59:26 UTC  

Women usually go to college and have a family at like 30

2018-10-08 22:59:30 UTC  

Which is not happening

2018-10-08 22:59:42 UTC  

So I have to make the job fit around that for sure.

2018-10-08 23:00:10 UTC  

This NWFT thing says I need to be affiliated with other sorts of forestry organizations

2018-10-08 23:00:18 UTC  

Like department of homeland

2018-10-08 23:01:06 UTC  

Hmmm... well I'm in school and affiliated that way.

2018-10-08 23:01:14 UTC  

You can apply to jobs as a novice though.

2018-10-08 23:01:17 UTC  

I know that for sure.

2018-10-08 23:02:14 UTC  

To what jobs?

2018-10-08 23:04:21 UTC  

wildland fire
https://www.usajobs.gov/ - you make a profile there first (lol it's down, how typical)

2018-10-08 23:04:43 UTC  

Nice

2018-10-08 23:04:54 UTC  

And then after you've made a detailed and throrough (But truthful) resume, you can just select and apply

2018-10-08 23:05:32 UTC  

Filter by agency (forest service and bureau of land, although don't sleep on indian bureau or fish and wildlife), and look for "forestry / range technician/aide"

2018-10-08 23:05:35 UTC  

That's the actual job

2018-10-08 23:06:16 UTC  

You can spam and apply for them all, but so can everyone else. It's a brutal slog. The good news is once you've worked for a season you have an in and, if you survive / enjoy the experience, returning is much less painful bureaucratically.

2018-10-08 23:06:31 UTC  

ALSO there are private trail / fire crews. Nature Conservancy for one.

2018-10-08 23:06:49 UTC  

Yeah but why are they gonna want an 18 year old who hasn't been to college though?
If they do at all?

2018-10-08 23:07:23 UTC  

You strong and don't complain? It's mostly digging and paying attention when you need to.

2018-10-08 23:07:43 UTC  

The west is more on fire every year.

2018-10-08 23:08:00 UTC  

Fire is the only environmental government sector that's growing.

2018-10-08 23:08:03 UTC  

Because there's no choice.

2018-10-08 23:08:18 UTC  

It's war-scale operations and spending. (well, maybe not modern war)

2018-10-08 23:08:28 UTC  

There's an aviation side to it?
That sounds even cooler.

2018-10-08 23:08:43 UTC  

Yes, but no one starts there unless they're a veteran with air experience

2018-10-08 23:08:51 UTC  

🤔

2018-10-08 23:08:55 UTC  

But yes, theoretically if you're elite you can eventually become a smokejumper.

2018-10-08 23:09:04 UTC  

How do you know so much about this?

2018-10-08 23:09:20 UTC  

I did four years in AmeriCorps, which exists laterally and peripherally on the fire world.

2018-10-08 23:09:59 UTC  

And my minor is in fire. Again, I'm too old and big to be a hotshot, but I know this stuff so I can safely do prescribed burns on deer lots and state parks, etc.

2018-10-08 23:10:33 UTC  

I WOULD suggest you do AmeriCorps... but it's very diverse. Even the mostly-white states's programs (maine, vermont) are not-metaphorically gay.