Message from @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

Discord ID: 498995342923137024


2018-10-08 23:01:17 UTC  

I know that for sure.

2018-10-08 23:02:14 UTC  

To what jobs?

2018-10-08 23:04:21 UTC  

wildland fire
https://www.usajobs.gov/ - you make a profile there first (lol it's down, how typical)

2018-10-08 23:04:43 UTC  

Nice

2018-10-08 23:04:54 UTC  

And then after you've made a detailed and throrough (But truthful) resume, you can just select and apply

2018-10-08 23:05:32 UTC  

Filter by agency (forest service and bureau of land, although don't sleep on indian bureau or fish and wildlife), and look for "forestry / range technician/aide"

2018-10-08 23:05:35 UTC  

That's the actual job

2018-10-08 23:06:16 UTC  

You can spam and apply for them all, but so can everyone else. It's a brutal slog. The good news is once you've worked for a season you have an in and, if you survive / enjoy the experience, returning is much less painful bureaucratically.

2018-10-08 23:06:31 UTC  

ALSO there are private trail / fire crews. Nature Conservancy for one.

2018-10-08 23:06:49 UTC  

Yeah but why are they gonna want an 18 year old who hasn't been to college though?
If they do at all?

2018-10-08 23:07:23 UTC  

You strong and don't complain? It's mostly digging and paying attention when you need to.

2018-10-08 23:07:43 UTC  

The west is more on fire every year.

2018-10-08 23:08:00 UTC  

Fire is the only environmental government sector that's growing.

2018-10-08 23:08:03 UTC  

Because there's no choice.

2018-10-08 23:08:18 UTC  

It's war-scale operations and spending. (well, maybe not modern war)

2018-10-08 23:08:28 UTC  

There's an aviation side to it?
That sounds even cooler.

2018-10-08 23:08:43 UTC  

Yes, but no one starts there unless they're a veteran with air experience

2018-10-08 23:08:51 UTC  

🤔

2018-10-08 23:08:55 UTC  

But yes, theoretically if you're elite you can eventually become a smokejumper.

2018-10-08 23:09:04 UTC  

How do you know so much about this?

2018-10-08 23:09:20 UTC  

I did four years in AmeriCorps, which exists laterally and peripherally on the fire world.

2018-10-08 23:09:59 UTC  

And my minor is in fire. Again, I'm too old and big to be a hotshot, but I know this stuff so I can safely do prescribed burns on deer lots and state parks, etc.

2018-10-08 23:10:33 UTC  

I WOULD suggest you do AmeriCorps... but it's very diverse. Even the mostly-white states's programs (maine, vermont) are not-metaphorically gay.

2018-10-08 23:10:52 UTC  

I don't know if you could hide your power level. Also you don't make much money in AmeriCorps.

2018-10-08 23:11:07 UTC  

That's gonna be a yikes from me chief.

2018-10-08 23:11:21 UTC  

Don't blame you. I did my AmeriCorps years before being redpilled.

2018-10-08 23:11:25 UTC  

I couldn't handle it now.

2018-10-08 23:11:49 UTC  

I've got to wake up in the morning and be able to send the "Good morning kings, lets get this bread" tweet.

2018-10-08 23:11:57 UTC  

I can't do that unless I am getting that bread

2018-10-08 23:13:03 UTC  

How much does it make?

2018-10-08 23:13:18 UTC  

You said 20k a season but how long is a season?

2018-10-08 23:15:06 UTC  

20k for 3.5 months if there's a burdensome amount of over time and hazard pay.

2018-10-08 23:15:43 UTC  

With less experience you'll make less per hour. I can't tell you if the physical pain and "hurry up and wait" chaos/monotony is worth it.

2018-10-08 23:15:59 UTC  

And, of course, small, but non-zero chance of injury or death.

2018-10-08 23:16:13 UTC  

It's probably less deadly than driving a semi truck though.

2018-10-08 23:16:39 UTC  

Honestly 20k a month doesn't sound that bad

2018-10-08 23:16:48 UTC  

Oh no, I meant per summer

2018-10-08 23:16:50 UTC  

Yeah my bad

2018-10-08 23:17:00 UTC  

Do I need to go to school for it?

2018-10-08 23:17:51 UTC  

Like a college or something where I have to listen to why I should let black transvestites breastfeed my son and pay them an arm and a leg for it?

2018-10-08 23:18:38 UTC  

No, I know people who have gotten on engine and hand crews without college degrees.