Message from @Louis Loire - NY

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2018-09-01 03:42:30 UTC  

No one wants canadian 80% so I buy that AT SPOT often

2018-09-01 03:43:52 UTC  

I also get 10oz bars or 1oz rds usually marked up 3-5% but I have no paper trail, a steady relationship with my dealer, and sometimes I get the inside info on some good stuff before it's ready for sale.

2018-09-01 03:44:08 UTC  

Online can be way better, but I like the relationship and anonymity.

2018-09-01 03:52:20 UTC  

Nice! Hm maybe I should get in touch with a coin shop

2018-09-01 07:31:51 UTC  

@ThisIsChris if that report is available to be shared publicly I’d love to read it

2018-09-01 13:47:51 UTC  

@ophiuchus on mobile right now, I'll look for it when I get home. I do have this relevant screenshot of the work though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352760194775777282/485445690802044940/Screen_Shot_2018-01-27_at_2.31.15_AM.png

2018-09-01 13:48:43 UTC  

The Quarterly report on household debt and credit was one of the main sources

2018-09-01 15:15:58 UTC  

You can get silver almost at spot from a good dealer or online deals

2018-09-01 15:16:16 UTC  

It's still down in the 15$ range I believe

2018-09-01 18:21:25 UTC  

I sold some gold and silver last year. It cost me $150 to mail it to the buyer. That’s when I realized metals will never be currency again.

2018-09-01 18:46:15 UTC  

most places have free shipping lol

2018-09-01 20:40:00 UTC  

Free shipping when you buy from a broker, not when you sell. And no there's no "free" shipping when transacting between individuals.

In a future where metals are currency, am I going to spend $20 to mail silver to Amazon.com to purchase $100 worth of goods?

2018-09-02 02:10:16 UTC  

So you are saying precious metals are obsolete as an investment because of weight?

2018-09-02 03:31:27 UTC  

That's an interesting point that I had never considered, that in a global market, physical currency is logistically clumsy

2018-09-02 06:18:08 UTC  

You're assuming a constant price, or elastic supply.

2018-09-02 13:58:01 UTC  

Then why do the most rich and powerful people banks nations ect hoard these precious metals?

2018-09-02 14:03:57 UTC  

Most rich people and most western nations don't hold precious metals. For any who do, perhaps they like ancient relics. I provided an argument why metals are no longer relevant. Saying "some people like them" does not refute my argument. Maybe you can tell me why some people like them.

How do you see metals being used in the future? They're far too expensive to send around, so if anyone starts using them, people will start printing warehouse receipts again and they'll print them with fractional reserves and it's not that different from what we have now.

2018-09-02 14:39:36 UTC  

Russia's has trippled it's gold reserves as of late

2018-09-02 14:40:15 UTC  

IDK where you get the info that no Western nation or powerful elites don't stack gold.

2018-09-02 14:40:18 UTC  

Bank of England

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352760194775777282/485821277639147521/article-2095535-118F9398000005DC-480_966x606.jpg

2018-09-02 14:41:24 UTC  

From financial times Today, Germany is one of the biggest holders of gold in the world: it owns 3,378 tonnes, worth €119bn, second only to the US. But until recently, most of that gold was stored in New York, London and Paris.

2018-09-02 14:45:06 UTC  

So the top economies of both the west and easy seem to stack gold

2018-09-02 14:46:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352760194775777282/485822822757695518/central-banks-continue-gobbling-up-gold-07022018.jpg

2018-09-02 14:46:33 UTC  

Central banks too

2018-09-02 15:09:28 UTC  

As for silver it's industrial use is far more valuable then it's jeweler value

2018-09-02 15:09:33 UTC  

Because it is the best thermal and electrical conductor of all the metals, silver is ideal for electrical applications. Its antimicrobial, non-toxic qualities make it useful in medicine and consumer products.

2018-09-02 15:10:16 UTC  

Your cell phone computer every single peice of electronic equipment you own has silver in it

2018-09-02 15:11:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352760194775777282/485829167737471018/silver-uses.gif

2018-09-02 23:41:35 UTC  

I started buying when they started subsidizing solar panels...I was like..."I'm gonna get my tax rebate before I file...let me get summa those dimes over there"

2018-09-02 23:50:59 UTC  

Buy metal because it's valuable for industry use, sure.
Buy metal because it's potentially going to become currency again, I don't think so.
From what I understand, gold is priced far above it's industrial use value, due to speculators thinking it could be a currency again, or the base of a currency. Silver, I don't know if overpriced.

2018-09-02 23:51:04 UTC  

You don’t have to hold physical metals unless you want to

2018-09-02 23:52:03 UTC  

The majority of metals I have in my portfolio are precious metals ETFs

2018-09-02 23:52:17 UTC  

I have a few pieces of silver I have just because I like them

2018-09-02 23:52:22 UTC  

My broke ass can’t afford gold

2018-09-02 23:53:25 UTC  

Yes, no one's making me. I'm just debating the validity of purchasing with the expectation that metals might one day be currency again.

2018-09-02 23:53:29 UTC  

I could see the argument both ways @Tanner - SC I consider it an asset both ways, and it's the only asset I know off that isn't simultaneously someone else's liability. Because I hold it, not a claim but the actual asset...I can retain X value...it is a speculation I'll admit.

2018-09-02 23:55:32 UTC  

Yeah I highly doubt they’ll be currency again. In some disaster scenario where the USD, etc, fail, I really doubt people are gonna flock to precious metals, because a catastrophe of that size would basically mean civilization was over.

2018-09-02 23:57:53 UTC  

Precious metals are useful as a hedge and not much else- investing wise. Silver and platinum have utility in industry, gold is kinda eh.

2018-09-02 23:58:25 UTC  

Gold seems super inflated to me rn

2018-09-02 23:59:21 UTC  

Stratton Oakmont: sell us MeeMaw’s old jewelry