Message from @hyperiacob
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?? But the bible can prove anything.
So translate it first and then show them
Easier said than done... But then again, people HATED the church and everything it stood for. I don't see why anyone outside of the witnesses and Joseph would need to see them anyway
Because is not the word of God then its a word of men, why would God hide scripture of his teachings?
Because it needed to be printed and such. The original manuscripts were important so they could make copies.
And now we have Books of Mormon widespread because it was kept safe
Sorry but It seems to change so often
Yeah I would hate a church too if it allowed for polygamy
Also people would need to see it to know he isn’t making it up
The apostles weren't afraid.
Also super tones has a point. They were under constant threat of execution and still preached under Gods protection so why didn’t Joseph Smith
I can't answer anything else today because I need to go to bed because I have school tomorrow
Its almost 12 for you I'm guessing?
Nah only 10:49
But I need sleep. I haven't been getting enough lately lol
Oh ok
Just wondering what college are you in?
College? I'm in highschool 😅
What?! Your younger than me?
Yeah 😂
🤣
Alright until next time <:salut:730846445732888630>
Same
My boss is a Mormon some of my information comes from him
@hyperiacob
Not only this, but if God just showed everyone the answers to everything, then why have us be here?
To spread the word and build his kingdom
Not hide it
You can spread the word and His kingdom, however, it is so that he can spread it through faith and experience. The knowledge we gain on earth through our trials and choices we make
Its goes against the foundation of God, God man us to build a relationship with us not hide a piece of important that can help build the relationship with him
I believe God would want people of quality rather than quantity, though he loves us all so much, He has given us agency as a gift and will never take that away from us...if that makes sense.
Then why take away the golden plates?
So that people can be tried in faith.
And to me people of quality seek the truth and if there isn’t enough evidence to prove Joseph Smith is telling the truth then I’m not gonna believe it.
Otherwise, there would be none.
But, shouldn't we have a rational faith based on evidence?
If that is your beliefs, then so be it. But know that God is perfect and all knowing, so if God knows that quality can be brought through faith and trials, that's what I will believe.
"Faith is things which are hoped for and not seen."
That depends.
"Wherefore disput not because ye see not, for ye recieve no witness until after the trial of your faith."
Yeah joesph Smith claims a angel came and showed him new scriptures and I say this verse once more because its important
which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:7-9