Message from @Logabear123
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I refuse to pay for anyone except myself and those I choose to pay for lol
While I do like the Kiaserreich for it’s a good game, syndicalism is a historical ideology
Yes, it's still horribly deluded
Syndicalism is the economic policies of the National Socialist
Elaborate...
idk. I feel like I'd be willing to pay for someone if their hand got chopped off, you know? It's that slippery slope into "pay for my transitioning fees" that make me go "nope."
Or the economic policies of Nazi Germany, Romania and by force by the axis Bulgaria
also, with nationalized healthcare comes healthcare standards
Syndicalism can have many shapes and taste with governmental ideologies
I need my money for myself. I have 4 different medications to pay for, one of which costs $70 with insurance. I have possible future accidents to pay for. I have my family to pay for. I don’t need to pay for some illegal immigrant who shouldn’t be here in the first place or someone who refuses to work unlike everyone else
I would be fine with paying health care if it was life or death
But economically it’s the same
Each of those was socialism, with the unique caveat of you technically owning the means of production
and I mean life and death determined in an hour of something
That's exactly what I'm against too. Though in all honesty, I'd be okay paying a little bit of money if it meant helping someone out with an actual medical problem.
Yeah syndicalism
Yeah I am so against welfare
my parents have a special hatred
Socialism but you can own some property
Where the workers own the stuff but the state controls all function of the production?
I'm not because I was on wellfare for a while because my parents couldn't afford anything. High school was rough for me so I again value parts of the system. It's the people who refuse to do work and just live off checks that make me go -_-
Of which? The state's control or the worker's meaningless ownership?
Parasites must be purged from the system 100%
I should've been more specific about those kind of welfare
Technically both, there are multiple variations
Theres also corporate welfare which j didnt know until recently
Are you asking what I would support?
Like we were on food stamps and stuff and it kept us our house. I love my house. However, I know of at least two women who barely work and they leech off of everyone else and it's sick but also hilarious because they can be really pathetic
In essence yes
Or what variation I like best?
I'm fine with welfare if the people on it work and need welfare to make it a bit more
That too
The workers should own the means of production but the state should lead them depending what the collective needs the most atm
Granted that would encourage McDonalds to pay very little
The state should never decide what to produce
I disagree.
I guess when it comes down to it, I'm okay with paying taxes for things like the library, street lights, public parks, facilities, and healthcare that does not include transitioning, euthanasia, or abortions.
wouldn't the companies be smart enough to know how many to produce? Like if they make more than demand it would be bad business
The people are gears in the machine that is the nation, the head must make the decision for their wellbeing
That's the beauty of free market capitalism though; prices determine what society needs