Message from @Logabear123

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2021-02-27 21:26:23 UTC  

Yeah I am so against welfare

2021-02-27 21:26:29 UTC  

my parents have a special hatred

2021-02-27 21:26:34 UTC  

Socialism but you can own some property

2021-02-27 21:26:46 UTC  

Where the workers own the stuff but the state controls all function of the production?

2021-02-27 21:27:02 UTC  

Bits and pieces

2021-02-27 21:27:16 UTC  

I'm not because I was on wellfare for a while because my parents couldn't afford anything. High school was rough for me so I again value parts of the system. It's the people who refuse to do work and just live off checks that make me go -_-

2021-02-27 21:27:46 UTC  

Of which? The state's control or the worker's meaningless ownership?

2021-02-27 21:27:47 UTC  

Parasites must be purged from the system 100%

2021-02-27 21:28:13 UTC  

I should've been more specific about those kind of welfare

2021-02-27 21:28:15 UTC  

Technically both, there are multiple variations

2021-02-27 21:28:25 UTC  

Theres also corporate welfare which j didnt know until recently

2021-02-27 21:28:29 UTC  

Are you asking what I would support?

2021-02-27 21:28:46 UTC  

Like we were on food stamps and stuff and it kept us our house. I love my house. However, I know of at least two women who barely work and they leech off of everyone else and it's sick but also hilarious because they can be really pathetic

2021-02-27 21:28:59 UTC  

In essence yes

2021-02-27 21:28:59 UTC  

Or what variation I like best?

2021-02-27 21:29:25 UTC  

I'm fine with welfare if the people on it work and need welfare to make it a bit more

2021-02-27 21:29:26 UTC  

That too

2021-02-27 21:29:38 UTC  

The workers should own the means of production but the state should lead them depending what the collective needs the most atm

2021-02-27 21:29:45 UTC  

Granted that would encourage McDonalds to pay very little

2021-02-27 21:30:11 UTC  

The state should never decide what to produce

2021-02-27 21:30:29 UTC  

I disagree.

2021-02-27 21:30:31 UTC  

I guess when it comes down to it, I'm okay with paying taxes for things like the library, street lights, public parks, facilities, and healthcare that does not include transitioning, euthanasia, or abortions.

2021-02-27 21:30:43 UTC  

wouldn't the companies be smart enough to know how many to produce? Like if they make more than demand it would be bad business

2021-02-27 21:31:07 UTC  

The people are gears in the machine that is the nation, the head must make the decision for their wellbeing

2021-02-27 21:31:44 UTC  

That's the beauty of free market capitalism though; prices determine what society needs

2021-02-27 21:31:56 UTC  

That head is the CEO, not a government slackjob

2021-02-27 21:32:07 UTC  

The problem starts when companies abuse that and start producing addictive substances and immoral items

2021-02-27 21:32:26 UTC  

There's also environmental impact that makes me wish society would go back to log huts

2021-02-27 21:32:37 UTC  

@mightytrump the capitalist pig who only want to pack their wallet yeah no

2021-02-27 21:32:41 UTC  

Regulations then? Don't need to throw out an amazing economic system

2021-02-27 21:32:53 UTC  

That's exactly what I came to the conclusion of

2021-02-27 21:33:00 UTC  

There also deforesting for farm land which is irresistible

2021-02-27 21:33:05 UTC  

It's why I'm Republican

2021-02-27 21:33:12 UTC  

An amazing economic system 😆

2021-02-27 21:33:14 UTC  

Keep living in denial of capitalism's wealth creation and inherent prosperity buddy 🙄

2021-02-27 21:33:34 UTC  

We waste so much food though is the thing
Like legit, I used to work in a food pantry. We'd throw out almost everything that came in there.

2021-02-27 21:33:39 UTC  

Keep living in denial of the millions that capitalist push into poverty

2021-02-27 21:33:55 UTC  

The worst part about capitalism is people who take advantage of loopholes and all that

2021-02-27 21:33:56 UTC  

Oh my God, that statement is so retarded it's not even funny

2021-02-27 21:34:14 UTC  

I also volunteer at a food bank and know jt full hand

2021-02-27 21:34:39 UTC  

Dude all do respect but even the most supportive of capitalism can see the negatives