Message from @Sam Anderson

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2018-10-11 05:01:46 UTC  

I think that kind of depends. First off, successful startup doesn't necessarily mean fortune 500 company. Even if we were to make that assumption, we don't know exactly what percentage of cofounders are immigrants, because those 40% of the companies could all have more than one, or just one immigrant cofounder

2018-10-11 05:01:49 UTC  

An immigrant from Somalia is going to be very different from an immigrant from Canada.

2018-10-11 05:02:32 UTC  

@Nicholas1166 - NY Is it enough to prove that the statistic given in the argument is meaningless?

2018-10-11 05:03:32 UTC  

To be honest friend, I don't know. That's a subjective question. The main issue is that you're extrapolating the startup company cofounder number onto the fortune 500 companies. If fortune 500 companies had, say, only one founder on average, or ten, it would tremendously disrupt your data

2018-10-11 05:05:26 UTC  

Also, like micbwilli said, immigrant is a very broad term. You could also try splitting up immigrants by national origin, which I think would prove a similar point. If that data isn't available, you might be able to find data on immigrant entrepreneurship pre and post 1965, which would also probably be useful

2018-10-11 05:07:55 UTC  

hmmm

2018-10-11 05:08:39 UTC  

I'm trying to phrase it in a way to sound like I'm not necessarily *disproving* it, I'm just using the available data to show that 40% really isn't that amazing

2018-10-11 05:08:59 UTC  

If I could find the average number of co-founders among Fortune 500 companies, that would solve it pretty easily

2018-10-11 05:10:39 UTC  

Maybe I could mitigate this by finding the average number of co-founders in the top 10 Fortune 500 companies?

2018-10-11 05:10:48 UTC  

Because I'm definitely not sitting here and counting up all 500

2018-10-11 07:23:10 UTC  

Number of founders per company is going to be highly variable

2018-10-11 07:24:29 UTC  

Plenty in the fortune 10 will have one founder

2018-10-11 07:24:39 UTC  

Like Sam Walton, Steve Jobs, etc

2018-10-11 21:30:05 UTC  

@Jacob make the sample size argument

2018-10-11 21:32:51 UTC  

the top 500 companies isn't a bad sample size tbh

2018-10-11 21:33:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387060078433271808/500058266198343681/The_Myth_of_the_Entrepreneurial_Immigrant.pdf

2018-10-11 21:33:05 UTC  

this is what I have right now

2018-10-11 21:33:09 UTC  

The US has around 350 mil people. Versus the 8 bil on the world. For these purposes lets exclude all Blacks from populations that can do this lol

2018-10-11 21:35:46 UTC  

I'm not sure I follow the logic here

2018-10-11 21:36:06 UTC  

Vc once i finish pooping?

2018-10-11 21:38:02 UTC  

1. Assume for not revealing your power level in this class that the same proportion of all pops have the capability to be tech startups.

2018-10-11 21:38:20 UTC  

ya sure

2018-10-11 21:38:28 UTC  

oh this isn't for class

2018-10-11 21:38:42 UTC  

I'm trying to start writing articles for America First Media

2018-10-11 21:38:53 UTC  

Good idea

2018-10-11 21:38:55 UTC  

I should too

2018-10-11 21:39:19 UTC  

that would be cool if you do

2018-10-11 21:39:25 UTC  

we could review each others' articles

2018-10-11 21:40:09 UTC  

im in vc

2018-10-11 21:42:44 UTC  

okay give me a minute

2018-10-11 21:43:06 UTC  

FUCK

2018-10-11 21:43:12 UTC  

I forgot I lost my earphones

2018-10-11 21:43:22 UTC  

uhhhhhh not sure if I can do this right now

2018-10-11 21:44:25 UTC  

okay I'll just get in for a bit right now

2018-10-11 21:44:34 UTC  

while I'm home

2018-10-11 21:54:47 UTC  

@ophiuchus That's true, but I rephrased it so it's not a specific claim, I'm just saying that it's fairly normal for businesses to have more than one co-founder, so if they're 26% of the population, co-founding 40% of companies isn't amazing

2018-10-18 03:02:03 UTC  

@here ummm Im kind of stumped on this homework question. I really don't know how to respond without revealing my power levels and getting a bad grade because of it.

2018-10-18 03:02:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387060078433271808/502315429004574731/image0.jpg

2018-10-18 03:03:11 UTC  

Drop that class right now!

2018-10-18 03:04:10 UTC  

Actually don't take my advice. I never went to college.

2018-10-18 03:04:21 UTC  

Haha