Message from NuclearReactionary in MacGuyver - Skills & Academics #stem

2018-12-16 04:25:41 UTC  


2019-01-01 17:45:04 UTC  

Hey, has anyone here changed careers using a 'code bootcamp'? Or is anyone a front-end web developer? I want to get a new job as a web developer this summer.

2019-01-01 19:06:58 UTC  

I’m currently trying to do that. Just going off of free courses online as of now

2019-01-01 20:59:59 UTC  

Cool @VinceChaos. I've been doing that for a few years now, but wasn't really taking it seriously. Now I'm doing a code bootcamp. What courses are you doing? Codecademy? W3Schools?

2019-01-01 21:15:17 UTC  

@NuclearReactionary Khan Academy, the Odin project, SoloLearn, and another that I can’t remember the name of rn

2019-01-01 21:15:31 UTC  

I use w3schools as a reference

2019-01-01 21:15:51 UTC  

Learning form multiple so I don’t miss anything and get different teaching types

2019-01-01 21:31:09 UTC  

Upskill! That was the last one. I really like using that one if you want to learn full stack

2019-01-01 21:40:10 UTC  

Nice. I haven't heard of Odin Project, SoloLearn or Upskill! I'll check them out!

2019-01-01 21:43:51 UTC  

The bootcamp I'm doing rn is $200/mo. but it's self-paced. I'm hoping to finish it in 3 months and then start applying for jobs lol

2019-01-01 21:44:14 UTC  

Oh yeah these are all free before I go for something like that

2019-01-01 21:44:21 UTC  

What’s your camp called

2019-01-01 21:44:58 UTC  

Treehouse. They have what they call a "TechDegree" for front end web development.

2019-01-01 21:45:26 UTC  

There's also one for full-stack if that's your thing, or iOS, too, I think.

2019-01-01 21:46:42 UTC  

A friend of mine is a web developer and he says the projects in this program are representative of the real world, so I'm confident I'll get a job when I'm done

2019-01-01 21:49:39 UTC  

Nice I actually did hear of that one maybe I’ll spend the cash

2019-01-01 21:51:23 UTC  

If you do, I can refer you for a discount, I think

2019-01-01 23:32:14 UTC  

@NuclearReactionary @VinceChaos vast majority of new front end devs in my experience now are coming out of code bootcamps, good choice!

2019-01-01 23:34:28 UTC  

starting salary at my company for fresh code camp grads is around 65-70k

2019-01-02 00:50:36 UTC  

Good to hear @ThisIsChris ! Do you know anyone that did Treehouse, specifically?

2019-01-02 00:53:17 UTC  

@NuclearReactionary I know a lot of people who've used Tree House to learn tools, myself included, but this is the first I'm hearing of their credential.

The main thing I would look for from a bootcamp graduate is do you have a portfolio to present? Most code camps spend a lot of time getting you to develop one.

2019-01-02 00:54:06 UTC  

Ok. Yeah, Treehouse does that. And like I said, a friend of mine said he thinks it represents real world work.

2019-01-02 00:55:00 UTC  

I’m gonna be disappointed if the starting salary isn’t more than that here, though. That would actually be a pay cut for me 😂 and I’m a teacher

2019-01-02 00:55:28 UTC  

Looking at indeed and paysa, I’m hopeful.

2019-01-02 00:59:27 UTC  

@NuclearReactionary where's "here"? my company's in manhattan which is usually pretty top dollar location. Only place I'm seen on the paycharts that regularly exceeds it is San Francisco.

Also, I don't want to judge, but if I could teach at a comparable or better salary then I would probably choose that, why do you want to change jobs?

2019-01-02 01:06:45 UTC  

My dad was a teacher, pretty good benefits, though I'm aware they've gotten worse depending on when you got into the system. But if you're making more as a teacher than 65k then you've probably been in it for a while.

2019-01-02 01:11:28 UTC  

I often recommend front-end dev work for people without a college degree or people who got a degree in underwater basket weaving and just woke up. 65k coding certainly beats retail, diner serving, or being a journalist as a career path. But I wouldn't take a pay cut from a respected job to do it. The pay scale does go up, of course, with years of experience. But life experience isn't going to transfer over that much, I'm sorry to say.

2019-01-02 01:21:07 UTC  

If you want to make a bigger salary and really need to code then it would make more sense to get a Computer Science degree. Since you have a Bachelor's already (I assume since you're a teacher) then I guess you would go for a Master's in CS degree.

2019-01-02 01:22:06 UTC  

They can make big bucks. With a Master's in CS degree + some internships, you can easily get 125k. (Not my field, I just know the salaries, kinda wish I had done more CS in school!)

2019-01-02 01:24:16 UTC  

Were you genuinely interested in coding/CS before you got started on this path or was it more pragmatism that took you this direction? For me it'd be more pragmatism. I feel like I could do it, it's just not a passion of mine.

2019-01-02 01:24:39 UTC  

I got a general business degree and I’m not even working in my chosen field. Considering a masters too but idk if I wanna spend way more money

2019-01-02 01:26:07 UTC  


2019-01-02 01:26:37 UTC  

@Mick is that a question for me or NuclearReactionary?

2019-01-02 01:27:15 UTC  

@VinceChaos A Master's in what?

2019-01-02 01:27:27 UTC  


2019-01-02 01:28:42 UTC  

@VinceChaos The opportunities with a Master's in CS are unparalleled. If you really like computers

2019-01-02 01:32:56 UTC  

That’s what I understand. You’ll get an offer months ahead of time in anticipation of graduation

2019-01-02 01:34:03 UTC  

It’s just the price

2019-01-02 01:34:11 UTC  

Yeah pretty much. Ideally you have time for a (paid) internship between your first and second year.

2019-01-02 01:37:34 UTC  

Nice. Yeah I’m using free products as of now. We’ll see what’s next