Message from NuclearReactionary in MacGuyver - Skills & Academics #stem
Hopefully he makes out ok. Doxxing has been devastating for me
@ThisIsChris Physics classes can be harsh. I took some to fulfill return requirements for a computer science degree. Are they actually useful in your career?
@Jacob Some intro to physics is a "now to know" but not "need to know". The main use in my career has been to better understand some calculus concepts, since the beginnings of calculus and physics are tightly connected.
you actually use calculus in your job?
I heard programmers don't actually use it
I'll DM you
Hey, has anyone here changed careers using a 'code bootcamp'? Or is anyone a front-end web developer? I want to get a new job as a web developer this summer.
I’m currently trying to do that. Just going off of free courses online as of now
Cool @VinceChaos. I've been doing that for a few years now, but wasn't really taking it seriously. Now I'm doing a code bootcamp. What courses are you doing? Codecademy? W3Schools?
@NuclearReactionary Khan Academy, the Odin project, SoloLearn, and another that I can’t remember the name of rn
I use w3schools as a reference
Learning form multiple so I don’t miss anything and get different teaching types
Upskill! That was the last one. I really like using that one if you want to learn full stack
Nice. I haven't heard of Odin Project, SoloLearn or Upskill! I'll check them out!
The bootcamp I'm doing rn is $200/mo. but it's self-paced. I'm hoping to finish it in 3 months and then start applying for jobs lol
Oh yeah these are all free before I go for something like that
What’s your camp called
Treehouse. They have what they call a "TechDegree" for front end web development.
There's also one for full-stack if that's your thing, or iOS, too, I think.
A friend of mine is a web developer and he says the projects in this program are representative of the real world, so I'm confident I'll get a job when I'm done
Nice I actually did hear of that one maybe I’ll spend the cash
If you do, I can refer you for a discount, I think
starting salary at my company for fresh code camp grads is around 65-70k
Good to hear @ThisIsChris ! Do you know anyone that did Treehouse, specifically?
@NuclearReactionary I know a lot of people who've used Tree House to learn tools, myself included, but this is the first I'm hearing of their credential.
The main thing I would look for from a bootcamp graduate is do you have a portfolio to present? Most code camps spend a lot of time getting you to develop one.
Ok. Yeah, Treehouse does that. And like I said, a friend of mine said he thinks it represents real world work.
I’m gonna be disappointed if the starting salary isn’t more than that here, though. That would actually be a pay cut for me 😂 and I’m a teacher
Looking at indeed and paysa, I’m hopeful.
@NuclearReactionary where's "here"? my company's in manhattan which is usually pretty top dollar location. Only place I'm seen on the paycharts that regularly exceeds it is San Francisco.
Also, I don't want to judge, but if I could teach at a comparable or better salary then I would probably choose that, why do you want to change jobs?
My dad was a teacher, pretty good benefits, though I'm aware they've gotten worse depending on when you got into the system. But if you're making more as a teacher than 65k then you've probably been in it for a while.
I often recommend front-end dev work for people without a college degree or people who got a degree in underwater basket weaving and just woke up. 65k coding certainly beats retail, diner serving, or being a journalist as a career path. But I wouldn't take a pay cut from a respected job to do it. The pay scale does go up, of course, with years of experience. But life experience isn't going to transfer over that much, I'm sorry to say.
If you want to make a bigger salary and really need to code then it would make more sense to get a Computer Science degree. Since you have a Bachelor's already (I assume since you're a teacher) then I guess you would go for a Master's in CS degree.
They can make big bucks. With a Master's in CS degree + some internships, you can easily get 125k. (Not my field, I just know the salaries, kinda wish I had done more CS in school!)
Were you genuinely interested in coding/CS before you got started on this path or was it more pragmatism that took you this direction? For me it'd be more pragmatism. I feel like I could do it, it's just not a passion of mine.
I got a general business degree and I’m not even working in my chosen field. Considering a masters too but idk if I wanna spend way more money