Wow, Woland actually makes good points when he can speak.

he doesnt need any ethical grounding at all lmao, his whole system follows

literally almost all ideology except from mainstream is completely unrealistic until it isnt

make him apologize for bombings

stop mumbling holy shit

This is the sing with the masses

thing*

arrrggghhhhh

They only become radical when their material conditions are threatened

WE ARE THE WOOOORLD

So saying that it is not realistic isnt a valid claim

WE ARE THE CHILDREN

because at the moment in our conditions so is socialism or any leftist ideology

always hated that song

just hit him with moral anti realism and collapse his "ethical" basis

"mediate our desires"

the basic foundation of economics is infinite wants and limited resources

that is the FIRST thing they teach in economics class

thx holo

and capitalism is the most efficient system to distribute resources

that's all there is to it

Egoist hedonist for the pure enjoyment, it's a valid reason

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at least it's honest

NS Germany didn't crumble internally lol

correct

why does he keep implying it?

prussian duty endured to the end

in BOTH wars

when france lost that means democracy crumbled

austrians were already slacking off in the end

germans did their duty to the utmost even when it was pointless

just like the japanese

his whole position is based on imagining morality exists and that it somehow is integral to human action when weve been killing and raping eachother other things we want for how long

and making up a morality that allows you to keep doing it, yeah

it's pointless

the difference between socialism and fascism

which is not even being argued about

is not down to morals or ethics

these debates are always "why can't we try to do this thing that's never been done"

woland should attack there even being any oughts at all