@AP I know that @celticflame was looking into something very similar lately, if you search the history of this chat. Maybe she would be willing to share what she found with you?

@APmessaged you back. Unfortunately have had to put all business on hold,on back burner for now. Got thrown into alot of family personal stuff going on

@celticflame I think it's a topic that a lot of people are curious about, could you post something here about what you found?

Well my head feels like stuffed wool right now do to alot of stuff going on in family so bare with me...
For the past year or 2,i have been slowly building up a small hand beaded jewelry business, getting products made now some in small bulks here n there,ready to sell. Got some business cards made off of Vista Print. Have looked online into Etsy & Ebay that want to charge you a lovely fee per item that you try to sell off their sites,decided not to do. Have looked into and started setting up app called "Shopify"- they give ypu a 14day trial period to start setting things up,give you some sample pages for you to set up,display your items for sale,seem the best to go by. Have gotten emails back on directing traffic to your site once you get it made,etc and how to help with the business aspects of it. There are some free sample pages u can use or some u pay fee for,all depends on your set up and way you want things, etc. So far seems the most solid from what i have compared to other sites in the past. Just need to get it done,set up. Because at the time i would have got started a bunch of family emergencies have happened so haven't had chance to finish setting up. I have kept somewhat track of receits,costs it has taken to make all my products,but still have alot not done so best to keep a quickbooks aspects of business costs set aside for your product's. Have taken lots of patience and time to build products up,so not something you do relatively quick. Still learning barely by the curveballs thrown at me. Plus what it will cost to ship products, and what you also have to factor in. Am alot closer to trying to get it off the ground but like i said have now had family issues to deal with so having to set aside and come back to again in lil while when i get better time,rtc set aside. Please excuse any fuzziness,really drained right now from driving lots hours,stress & little sleep.

Just 1 example of my product i have made by hand,take alot of time and patience

Not to mention costs of supplies i get off ebay or local,etc. Like Silver,gemstone beads like the Amethyst,Opal,Pearls in bottom set,or some of the Swarovski crystals,silver & silvwr chain in top 1. Alot of factors...

Anyways,thats as far as I've gotten. Takes time,sorry can't be of any further help right now folks. Like i said,so close to launching but am having to put on hold to help with extended family matters

Oh also have a magnetic reader white Square thing to use too

If anyone is looking for contracting leads...I know a guy looking for someone with node.js/angular experience building gui. I believe some Mongo experience is helpful. DM me if interested. He's looking to fill the position within the week.

Also,put into perspective that I made a photobox out of cardboard & cheesecloth and couple decent lightning setups to photograph some stuff with,play around with,that also takes time to get every item done,which I'm still learning & playing with since some pics take and others don't. Also costs for Display,bags,etc too. Lots of aspects still fiddling and learning by trial or fail. And if you decide to sell at craft fairs or other faires to get your name out,besides it going online and getting started. And other business apps that can help you or books,what have you. Factor your costs it takes to make item,add in your time it takes to make it & times by 3. When i took old jc jewlery class in past, teacher told us to times the item by 3. That's material costs,time,etc

Best to keep solid stable accounts to go by instead of hit and miss,otherwise you have to go back and figure out all over again & thats alot of wasted time

Also if for instance you have to go by price of silver that you use if you hand sauder a silver ring,how those stock prices flutuate. Not to mention the costs you can't apply for say your own quality hand tools you might use to make a piece. Nor your work space. But thats off topic a lil. Anyway hope ya get the jists of tryung to start up your own company and many facets you have to factor into it

Sorry its not alot of tech jargon but what goes into prior to it. Like i said,learning as i go

Very nice -> https://standardnotes.org

Self-hosting that would be great too

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/10/facebook_opensources_encrypted_group_chat_tools/

It's just a protocol, not a full chat solution, sadly

Also, it was just said today that Whatsapp has a backdoor to convos even though they advertise the encryption. Can't trust anything that doesn't open source server code. Even then they could be running different code than what they show on github, but it's a better bet

Anybody have camera suggestions.

I was thinking about getting aOlympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III

What are you wanting to do with it?

@JesseJames we talked about a lot of options. Favoring the sony a6000 now

I'm not the one buying though lol

I'm assuming your going to use video mire

After seeing the conversation and the video results for that sony a6000 that's what I'd buy.

I am a Nikon fan. I've also had a cannon. I have heard good things about Sony the only negatives I've heard are the lenses have issue with dirt getting in them and I went through that with the g7x.

@Why Tea A good point was brought up that 4k video makes the a6300 more future proof

Hot Take: As much as I like decentralized/distributed tech projects, I don't think they'll ever catch on because the ability to delete things and have them deleted for everyone else is too valuable for people. The "once posted, always posted" thing is very unsettling to most normal people.

Dude. How long does google drive take to upload a 4min video!?

Still says "starting" for 20mins now.

@Deleted User sounds like it's trouble connecting. Is your space full? Do you have wifi? If everything seems find, might just want to refresh the page if you are using the web client, or restart the computer if you are using the automatic backup thing

Space = Google drive space

Thanks @ThisIsChris Everything is in working order. Never used googledrive before. Think I might be getting there now.

Anybody into amateur radio?

@Deleted User How do you make your memes?

What is up with the new tor for android? Can't switch by swiping and added some basic apps like google chrome etc.

@Deleted User hmm I didn't know you could switch by swiping before , minus that, I can't notice any differences, although admittedly I only used it when DailyStormer was down. Are there any other onion sites you recommend as worthwhile?

@ThisIsChris. I use it to run Twitter through and Orfox.

Cool I didn't know you could do that. @Deleted User does that get around bans?

@ThisIsChris. No unfortunately, as far as posts being too "altright" etc... just runs Twitter traffic through tor for privacy. Orfox (the web browser) is dependent on the site suspecting unusual traffic as far as viewing. Finding a link for Twitter on how to do...