Message from @Thomas Morrow

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2017-08-14 23:36:39 UTC  

@everyone Did anyone talk to the guys we used home remedies for pepper spray on? Did anything seem to work more than just water and air?

2017-08-14 23:37:37 UTC  

@Deleted User milk, Maalox, and baby shampoo.

2017-08-14 23:37:55 UTC  

MILK

2017-08-14 23:38:25 UTC  

Data shows most important things to surviving arrest is quality compressions and how quickly someone can be cardioverted

2017-08-14 23:38:59 UTC  

If someone goes down, start compressions and get AED asap.

2017-08-14 23:40:30 UTC  

My only concern with the milk is if we are out in the heat, not sure someone would like stinky hot milk on their face.

2017-08-14 23:44:43 UTC  

1:3 baby soap to water in a spray bottle. Scrub scrub scrub. Then 1:1 maalox to water in a spray bottle. Make sure to get both the soap mixture and maalox in the patient's eyes. Rise with water good. Repeat the process. Don't use milk. That's gross

2017-08-14 23:45:13 UTC  

^ this is a Richard Spencer approved method, btw. Got to test it on him a couple times

2017-08-14 23:48:19 UTC  

@ErikaI saw you using it, i was using just normal saline for an eye flush which didn't seem to help much.

2017-08-14 23:49:39 UTC  

OC spray is oil based. Milk. Water. Saline. Etc. won't do anything to strip away the oil. Stripping away the oil is something that needs to happen before you can neutralize the capsaicin.

2017-08-14 23:57:01 UTC  

Baked A. Freaked when I gave him my baby shampoo and water solution.

2017-08-14 23:59:04 UTC  

Richard. McLaren. Freiberg. Ajax. And several others all said my method for neutralizing OC spray worked wonders. Richard also shouted out my efforts on the latest Shoah. I'm now known as the "guardian angel" lol

2017-08-14 23:59:30 UTC  

@Havamal baked got a totally different level of pepper spray than what I treated.

2017-08-15 00:06:09 UTC  

Was it even pepper spray or some type of acid?

2017-08-15 00:17:06 UTC  

He received something at ultra high pressure. It's possible it was bear mace, or it could have been draino

2017-08-15 00:26:46 UTC  

I talked to Baked. It was apparently something called class 4 bear mace. Nasty stuff.

2017-08-15 00:31:55 UTC  

I though bear mace was weaker?

2017-08-15 00:32:22 UTC  

Which sounds odd but I swear I've read it in multiple places

2017-08-15 02:57:21 UTC  

It is weaker.

2017-08-15 02:58:15 UTC  

But if you get anything shot into your eyes at high pressure at close range, eye damage is a distinct possibility.

2017-08-15 03:17:16 UTC  

Makes sense.

2017-08-15 03:17:51 UTC  

Especially considering bear mace often times has a shot distance of 30 feet

2017-08-15 14:26:45 UTC  

@Deleted User, whatever @Erika used on me seemed pretty effective.

2017-08-15 14:29:02 UTC  

Good deal, i had heard online that everything was kind of just placebo effect. I didn't really believe that because i would think removing the agent would help.

2017-08-15 14:37:18 UTC  

@Louis Loire - NY @Erika did you guys have anything other than pepper spray? Had a cut with urine in it, that looked like it needed a couple stitches, and blunt trauma to the forearm proximal to the elbow.

2017-08-15 15:59:08 UTC  

@Deleted User I had two hypoglycemia cases to work with. The majority of what I dealt with was pepper spray.

2017-08-15 15:59:55 UTC  

@Deleted User was happy to be of service. I felt bad for the entire VIP crowd and you PSDs. Y'all got it rough and the corrupt police didn't do a damn thing.

2017-08-15 18:10:08 UTC  

I had multiple facial lacerations acid attacks oven cleaner attacks and cracked skulls

2017-08-15 18:10:19 UTC  

I treated about 15 people

2017-08-15 18:10:36 UTC  
2017-08-15 18:11:04 UTC  

I was also in the park till the very end i treated a few wounded at mc intryw as well

2017-08-15 18:15:32 UTC  

Lessons learned? @Erika @Louis Loire - NY i honestly didn't expect as much pepper spray as was there. We also need to plan an actual triage point next time, I think. What helped with the oven cleaner? Were there any Neuro symptoms with the skull fracture?

2017-08-15 18:16:33 UTC  

No just bleeding and stiches needed and rhe oven cleaner was highly toxic i had nothing and we were under fire from both cops and antifa it was a mad house

2017-08-15 18:17:03 UTC  

And yes i need to mix that stuff that Erika made my pepper spray wipes did jack shit

2017-08-15 18:17:28 UTC  

Told Nathan to not buy then again either he had the same ones

2017-08-15 18:22:58 UTC  

Is the person that got sprayed with the oven cleaner good? Seems like the best thing would be just flush with water, or vinegar (since oven cleaner is basic).

2017-08-15 18:25:07 UTC  

@Erika did you have a glucometer to check sugars, or were they just showing signs?

2017-08-15 18:52:08 UTC  

He was pretty messed up tried flushing it out he was making it worse by panicking he was the guy in the blue shirt with the black sun American flag

2017-08-15 18:52:23 UTC  

We got him out though

2017-08-15 18:52:59 UTC  

Any in eyes or airway?

2017-08-15 18:54:22 UTC  

@Erika did you treat a guy in white pants