Message from @sigruna14

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2018-05-02 01:02:27 UTC  

I mean, it could be a lot of things. Hard to know where to begin our if I should just let the shop deal with it.

2018-05-02 01:03:36 UTC  

well if its just a stuck throttle that's a pretty easy fix

2018-05-02 01:15:31 UTC  

What year make and model?

2018-05-02 10:38:04 UTC  

@JesseJames 1995 Mustang 3.8L.

2018-05-02 10:39:29 UTC  

If it means anything, first I noticed it was rolling down the other side of a bridge in 3rd at 35, so revs were a little high, I was using the higher revs to help keep my speed down.

2018-05-02 10:39:55 UTC  

When I put it in neutral at the traffic light I noticed the revs were still up and I was like... Uuhhh... Wtf?

2018-05-02 10:40:08 UTC  

@Pinochetball Maybe that means something to you.

2018-05-02 10:44:56 UTC  

I would remove the throttle body and clean it with throttle body cleaner. And remove the mass air flow meter and clean it with MAF cleaner.

2018-05-02 10:58:24 UTC  

Yeah like a i said last night youll wanna remove that plenum and visually inspect the tb to make sure its not sticking open, and remove the iac to make sure the pintle isnt sticking open

2018-05-02 11:25:56 UTC  

Btw is the MIL on?

2018-05-02 11:31:19 UTC  
2018-05-02 11:32:55 UTC  

Btw, since the IAC is what the computer uses to adjust the TB, shouldn't the problem have gone away when I unplugged it?

2018-05-02 11:37:17 UTC  

No lol the computer adjusts the pintle in the IAC on idle to keep it smooth so it doesnt surge. If its sticking open, like mechanically stuck the ecm wont be able to adjust it and the idle will be high

2018-05-02 11:38:04 UTC  

Most the time when they stick they stick just a little open and the car surges or it sticks shut and it wont idle at all or it will but super low

2018-05-02 11:39:56 UTC  

If the cars at 2000rpm unplugging it wont matter anyway because youre off idle

2018-05-02 11:40:50 UTC  

Ill be at work in a few mins and ill email you some Identifix test plans real quick so you can mess with it today

2018-05-02 16:09:32 UTC  

To bad it isn't obd2 would be much easier to pinpoint. But I agree I would start with tb and or iac

2018-05-02 21:57:26 UTC  

@JesseJames It is OBD2 but all I have is a basic code scanner.

2018-05-02 21:57:53 UTC  

Also there is a sticker on the TB that says not to clean it because there is a special coating.

2018-05-02 21:59:37 UTC  

If it's the IAC pindle sticking that's causing this, should physically removing the IAC from the TB and then starting the car make the symptom go away?

2018-05-02 21:59:44 UTC  
2018-05-02 22:00:16 UTC  

No dont do that lol

2018-05-02 22:00:39 UTC  

Youll have massive unmetered air

2018-05-02 22:00:45 UTC  

The car wont even start

2018-05-02 22:01:30 UTC  

Ok if the TB says not to clean it, then just make sure nothing is keeping the blade open, but id take that IAC off and clean it real well

2018-05-02 22:01:58 UTC  

Sorry i didnt get a chance to send you any test plans, today was busy as shit

2018-05-02 22:02:57 UTC  

That's alright.

2018-05-02 22:03:51 UTC  

So you pulled the MAF pigtail and the car ran rough?

2018-05-02 22:11:45 UTC  

@Pinochetball "Pigtail"? I unplugged the sensor, and yeah, it barely ran.

2018-05-02 22:12:16 UTC  

Lol yeah pigtail is just what i call the connector ends

2018-05-02 22:12:28 UTC  

Thats ok tho thats a good sign actually

2018-05-02 22:13:21 UTC  

I'm still not sure how to tell the IAC valve from the TPS. I know you said the TPS was the big aluminum thing on top and IAC is just a little plastic piece on the side, but I'm looking at some YouTube videos and it seems like they're calling the big one the IAC, but sadly I can't find a video of someone doing this on my exact engine.

2018-05-02 22:15:55 UTC  

Oh, another thing I noticed today: A popping feeling in my accelerator. When it's all the way up and I press down, there's a tiny little pop, like I'm overcoming an infinitesimal amount of resistance.

2018-05-02 22:19:50 UTC  

Yeah I'm looking up pics of the IAC on AutoZone.com and I'm pretty sure the IAC is the big one on top.

2018-05-02 22:21:34 UTC  

Is there any way to know for sure if it's the IAC before I clean it? Cause I don't have full confidence that cleaning it will work, maybe I don't do a thorough enough job, or it just doesn't work and what it really needs is replacing. But I'm not sure how to test it. @Pinochetball @JesseJames

2018-05-02 22:27:13 UTC  

Usually, you should be able to pull the IAC off, keep it plugged in, and have a friend turn the key to just the "on/run" position (not start it) and you should see it move a bit

2018-05-02 22:28:18 UTC  

Also, what kind of little handheld code reader do you have?

2018-05-02 22:30:55 UTC  

Most of those, even the little cheapos, you should be able to see the long and short term fuel trims

2018-05-02 22:33:36 UTC  

Just some $20 Advance junk that tells you if there's codes and which monitors are ready.

2018-05-03 00:00:25 UTC  

A 95 model is obd2 they got it before the v8 models. You should be able to scan it and retrieve any stored codes.

2018-05-03 00:02:07 UTC  

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