Message from @Tanner - SC

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2018-07-11 23:05:32 UTC  

It’s a genetic separation of economic status, not technological.

2018-07-11 23:06:32 UTC  

Ok so what happens to the IQ 90 white truck driver?

2018-07-11 23:07:20 UTC  

Economics is a study of the seen and the unseen. Everyone points to the “seen” and demands to know exactly what will happen.

2018-07-11 23:08:00 UTC  

I don’t know exactly what will happen to the 90 IQ truck driver. That doesn’t mean we should halt technological progress.

2018-07-11 23:08:24 UTC  

“If we asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses” - Henry Ford

2018-07-11 23:08:36 UTC  

“But what will happen to the buggy whip manufacturers?”

2018-07-11 23:09:21 UTC  

Look we've all read Bastiat. I'm not saying we should halt technological progress I'm just saying that it's likely to cause conflict.

2018-07-11 23:09:36 UTC  

Highly recommended book on the “seen” vs the “unseen”: <https://www.mises.org/library/economics-one-lesson>

2018-07-11 23:10:06 UTC  

Immigration is a problem. Not technological progress.

2018-07-11 23:10:55 UTC  

I think a future where no one owns cars, and your movements are tracked constantly through rideshare apps is scary, but automated vehicles would *greatly* alleviate the strains that we've seen with exploding populations in major metropolitan areas

2018-07-11 23:12:28 UTC  

Every one of these autonomous trucks will be running 24/7. That’s like 3x the uptime per truck of current. Someone has to load and unload all of these trucks. Someone has to make the tires that will get consumed at 3x the rate. Cheaper goods from lowered transport costs mean more money is free to go elsewhere, which will drive up jobs in those areas.

2018-07-11 23:13:13 UTC  

“No one will own cars” is ridiculous. Technology does not make things black and white.

2018-07-11 23:13:34 UTC  

People who would be better off sharing will share and people better off owning will still own.

2018-07-11 23:13:51 UTC  

Apartments are cheaper than houses, but not everyone lives in an apartment.

2018-07-11 23:14:55 UTC  

I’m not going to re-install child seats every morning in a new Uber autonomous car, nor am I going to share a child seat with strangers. I will continue to own a car. Maybe it’ll be autonomous, but I will own it. I also don’t ride the subway or a bus, even though those are cheaper. But the introduction of the subway and the bus were good for those who are better served by it.

2018-07-11 23:17:10 UTC  

@Tanner - SC of course it's ridiculous, I was being hyperbolic. However, car ownership will become a luxury few can afford in a future of self driving vehicles

2018-07-11 23:18:28 UTC  

Nonsense. You cannot say that with any lick of confidence.

2018-07-11 23:18:45 UTC  

Renting will become cheaper. That does not mean owning will become more expensive.

2018-07-11 23:18:57 UTC  

Look at the affordability if vehicles over the last 50 years. They've become a greater and greater percentage of a person's net worth, because of more and more technology

2018-07-11 23:19:21 UTC  

Because manipulated interest rates influencing a massive amount of lending and debt

2018-07-11 23:19:38 UTC  

Auto loans are in a huge bubble due to this.

2018-07-11 23:20:33 UTC  

One moment, I'm trying to find an article

2018-07-11 23:20:34 UTC  

You can spend the same % of your net worth on a vehicle today as the average person did 50 years ago and you’d have a FAR better vehicle.

2018-07-11 23:21:01 UTC  

Used cars last far longer too, making that market enormously bigger than it used to be.

2018-07-11 23:21:32 UTC  

What do you mean, used cars last longer?

2018-07-11 23:21:33 UTC  

Technology does not make people spend more. Jew-manipulated interest rates plus media promotion of consumerism makes people spend more.

2018-07-11 23:21:50 UTC  

Used cars last far longer today than ones 50 years ago.

2018-07-11 23:22:49 UTC  

Cars used to require major service before 50,000 miles. Now there are many cars that can run 150,000 miles with just gasoline, oil changes, tires, and brake pads.

2018-07-11 23:23:04 UTC  

FAR more reliable and FAR longer lasting than they used to be.

2018-07-11 23:23:44 UTC  

Even in my lifetime (I'm only 31), tires get far fewer flats than they used to, for example.

2018-07-11 23:25:59 UTC  

If this wasn't the <#322712586741088256> channel, I'd transition into urbanization too. Because that's another phenomenon and result of technological progress that brings a lot of good to the world, but jews have manipulated things so as to also bring a large amount of bad.

2018-07-11 23:26:18 UTC  

Absent jew influence, technological progress always brings bad with the good, but it brings far more good than bad.

2018-07-11 23:26:43 UTC  

I'm having a hard time saucing my claims, but I have a hard time believing that all the proprietary tech involved with self driving vehicles will make car ownership cheaper

2018-07-11 23:27:14 UTC  

I'm not saying it won't be a net positive, I'm saying I'm worried about some of the specifics

2018-07-11 23:28:52 UTC  

I should probably mention I have skin in the game. I just learned how to drive truck a couple of months ago.

2018-07-11 23:30:09 UTC  

I don't think your average farmer will be able to afford that tech, or that it will make economic sense for him to

2018-07-11 23:32:55 UTC  

@Der Seeteufel - SD You already participate in one of the most highly automatized industries.

2018-07-11 23:33:18 UTC  

Even just a few decades ago, double-digit percentages of america were farmers and now it's below 2%

2018-07-11 23:33:29 UTC  

You have enormous machines that displace the work of ~~dozens~~ hundreds of men

2018-07-11 23:33:35 UTC  

Some machines that drive themselves already

2018-07-11 23:35:52 UTC  

All new 18 wheelers are now automatic transmission. Guys who trained to drive stick now have a depreciated skillset. So did VCR repairmen. We're all okay and better off for it.