Yes sir and giving what you're trying to do using steel or something of that nature just wouldn't work for the induction

Keep in mind when building this that it will always take more energy to make energy than the energy produced. Heat and friction are energy losses

^^^

This is the equation that prevents perpetual motion

Ugh im at a negro house giving an estimate

Literally a chimp out on tv..... and the smell....

slave art?

Hahaha

@Lebens What is a "R&R commercial 225A single phase panel?"

Remove and replace a 225A single phase panel

Ah ty

@Lebens so you basically disconnected all the wires from the old panel, tracked them, and required them to the new panel?

How long does that take?

Im on my 10th hour

Still not done

Tomorrow i have another one to do

Holy feck

Wednesday im installing a lighting control system

2.5 days work and ill clear $6k

Contractor life

That's awesome.

@Lebens that panel/meter combo in that last picture is the second one of those I've seen you post. It's similar to what I would call a meter bank for a multi dwelling bldg. Is that something that is common for your area. Is that what the utility requires? I'm in Louisville and all of the services that we install have a meter Base outside and then a panel beneath it or just inside the wall from it. I was just wondering if that is something that you personally prefer or is that something that is common to your neck of the woods

@Deleted User east coast vs west coast. Out here we use all in one enclosures, i hate it. You guys have the better version

@Deleted User this building wanted a way to work on the panel without shutting down the substation also. With the meter socket they can monitor usage and have a means of disconnect for swapping main breaker

I was getting ready to run an outlet off this existing outlet. First tree ground wasn't connected and three was a jumper you can see in the pic. It's this normal practice. I've never seen it before.

It looks like the wiring was a two wire system. For a while they decided that grounds were necessary and did not pull a ground conductor. The neutral wire which is the white wire is at Ground potential in the panel so basically it is grounded just like a ground wire would be so they are putting a jumper between the neutral screw and the ground screw so as to ground the outlet. This is not cold legal. The proper fix would be to go buy a two wire Outlet which is an outlet that has the two vertical slots but no round ground hole and put that back in. People change and put 3 wire outlets on so they can plug things like plug strips and other devices with ground prongs but it is neither safe nor legal. If there is a green or bare ground conductor in the box then you can use that to bond to the green screw and use a 3 prong outlet otherwise it should go back to the old to wire original scenario

* unnecessary

I see this all the time and it is a scenario that will work and provide both a neutral and a ground but like I said as per your electrical code there should be a wire for the hot a wire for the neutral and a wire for the ground.

@Placidseven - MO ^^

Agreed

The jumping of neutral to ground is to trick an inspectors plug tester. This is a hack job "electricians" work

The ground isnt even wrapped the right direction

It's weird because there were 2 ground wires in the box they just weren't connected. Which makes me worry there is a bad ground.

I'm going to buy a cheap circuit tester and do some investigating.

Well all the grounds are good on that circuit. Unless anyone can think of something I should check, I guess I'm going to hook it back up.

Do a resistance check from neutral to ground. The grounds and neutrals typically are bonded at the panel. Sometimes you will find floating neutrals which means its isolated. However the xo bond coming from the secondary side of transformers creates ground aka your zero reference point

Yes go ahead and make it all up include your new wire that you were going to run twist all your light colors clockwise under a wired nut with the short jumper wire to your individual device and It will give you best results

Here is a splice with 3 nm cables and the jumper wires to the outlet. Twist wires clockwise as this is how the wirenuts tighten

So after testing all the outlets on that circuit ( and the rest of the house which is ok), the receptacles on that breaker all have an open ground. Looks like I get to spend some quality time in my attic tomorrow.

@Lebens I'll give this a try tomorrow too