Messsage from Triple Hernan in Nick Fuentes Server #history-server


Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:37:11  

but the entire revolution was unwarranted

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:37:56  

imo

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:38:38  

no

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:39:11  

American revolution was to protect the liberties against the Westminster absoutism

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:39:25  

And the American identity

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:40:03  

Americans self-identified as Americans rather than British decades before the revolution

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:41:57  

that's a bit of a generalisation, many colonists saw themselves as english transplanted to the Americas

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:42:10  

sure some of them adopted a national identity when and after the revolution

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:42:12  

happened

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:42:29  

but a lot of them (for example the loyalists who moved to canada) considered themselves british first

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:42:47  

after the revolution, loyalists migrated (actually got kicked out) to Canada

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:42:53  

sure

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:43:03  

but that was after the revolution took place

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:43:08  

this is the conflict of identity

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:43:17  

talking about the initial reasons for it

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:43:25  

no way than actions of warfare can solve it

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:43:29  

it will happen sooner or later

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:43:50  

Americans will never be willing to vote for some representatives in Westminster

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:44:42  

none of those living in the colonies wanted direct rule, but they were willing to wait for devolved powers to be granted to them

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:45:04  

the Canadians, Australians and kiwis got dominion status sometime in the 30s

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:45:17  

they didn't use violence to try and take those powers

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:45:48  

fair enough, the Americans did

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:45:59  

i just don't think it was worth spilling the blood of their fellows over

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:46:11  

at first it is quite mild

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:46:23  

but all the time things suddenly got heated

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:46:29  

like explosion

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:46:42  

no one planned a revolution from the beginning

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:46:52  

but in the end, it had to be like this

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:47:07  

i'd agree with that

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:47:21  

the countries under britain's control only remained there for so long as britain had the power to keep them

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:47:40  

as soon as british power waned every colony was pushing for independence or more autonomy

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:48:15  

it's the fault of the british government for losing the power and influence required to maintain the empire

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:48:42  

and another thing

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:49:00  

founding fathers may first identify as proud subjects of British crown

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:49:15  

but then they realize that the British tradition is corrupted

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:49:34  

so they decide to segregate from that

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:50:26  

at least britain and america have remained allies

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:28:49  

been listening to the history of rome, fascinating stuff

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:33:23  

very frustrating to look our statesmen and politicians today, when compared to even the most mundane leaders from history, no will to truly lead

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:34:03  

i think in america this problem stems from our decaying homogeneity

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:35:08  

how can you even earnestly lead a country like america and appeal to "the people" when half of them will eventually never agree with the interests of the other