Message from Huge Brain Oliver in Nick Fuentes Server #history-server


2018-03-18 20:35:51 UTC  

and when the tax rate in the colony goes up (still far lower than that in England) to pay off this debt they sperg out and declare independence

2018-03-18 20:36:11 UTC  

granted it all turned out great for the Americans in the end

2018-03-18 20:36:24 UTC  

(they hold world hegemony, foremost power etc)

2018-03-18 20:37:11 UTC  

but the entire revolution was unwarranted

2018-03-18 20:37:56 UTC  

imo

2018-03-18 20:38:38 UTC  

no

2018-03-18 20:39:11 UTC  

American revolution was to protect the liberties against the Westminster absoutism

2018-03-18 20:39:25 UTC  

And the American identity

2018-03-18 20:40:03 UTC  

Americans self-identified as Americans rather than British decades before the revolution

2018-03-18 20:41:57 UTC  

that's a bit of a generalisation, many colonists saw themselves as english transplanted to the Americas

2018-03-18 20:42:10 UTC  

sure some of them adopted a national identity when and after the revolution

2018-03-18 20:42:12 UTC  

happened

2018-03-18 20:42:29 UTC  

but a lot of them (for example the loyalists who moved to canada) considered themselves british first

2018-03-18 20:42:47 UTC  

after the revolution, loyalists migrated (actually got kicked out) to Canada

2018-03-18 20:42:53 UTC  

sure

2018-03-18 20:43:03 UTC  

but that was after the revolution took place

2018-03-18 20:43:08 UTC  

this is the conflict of identity

2018-03-18 20:43:17 UTC  

talking about the initial reasons for it

2018-03-18 20:43:25 UTC  

no way than actions of warfare can solve it

2018-03-18 20:43:29 UTC  

it will happen sooner or later

2018-03-18 20:43:50 UTC  

Americans will never be willing to vote for some representatives in Westminster

2018-03-18 20:44:42 UTC  

none of those living in the colonies wanted direct rule, but they were willing to wait for devolved powers to be granted to them

2018-03-18 20:45:04 UTC  

the Canadians, Australians and kiwis got dominion status sometime in the 30s

2018-03-18 20:45:17 UTC  

they didn't use violence to try and take those powers

2018-03-18 20:45:48 UTC  

fair enough, the Americans did

2018-03-18 20:45:59 UTC  

i just don't think it was worth spilling the blood of their fellows over

2018-03-18 20:46:11 UTC  

at first it is quite mild

2018-03-18 20:46:23 UTC  

but all the time things suddenly got heated

2018-03-18 20:46:29 UTC  

like explosion

2018-03-18 20:46:42 UTC  

no one planned a revolution from the beginning

2018-03-18 20:46:52 UTC  

but in the end, it had to be like this

2018-03-18 20:47:07 UTC  

i'd agree with that

2018-03-18 20:47:21 UTC  

the countries under britain's control only remained there for so long as britain had the power to keep them

2018-03-18 20:47:40 UTC  

as soon as british power waned every colony was pushing for independence or more autonomy

2018-03-18 20:48:15 UTC  

it's the fault of the british government for losing the power and influence required to maintain the empire

2018-03-18 20:48:42 UTC  

and another thing

2018-03-18 20:49:00 UTC  

founding fathers may first identify as proud subjects of British crown

2018-03-18 20:49:15 UTC  

but then they realize that the British tradition is corrupted

2018-03-18 20:49:34 UTC  

so they decide to segregate from that

2018-03-18 20:50:26 UTC  

at least britain and america have remained allies

2018-03-21 00:28:49 UTC  

been listening to the history of rome, fascinating stuff