Message from Deleted User in Nick Fuentes Server #history-server


2018-03-21 00:48:38 UTC  

but are not truly democratic

2018-03-21 00:49:19 UTC  

example?

2018-03-21 00:52:17 UTC  

i think the ideal republic would feature a senate:
consisted of members of the highest class
voted for by the highest class and upper middle class

A sort of tribune of the plebs made up by upper middle class, voted by upper middle class and representatives from the lower classes

2018-03-21 00:52:18 UTC  

Republic originally meant "a public matter" didn't it? There needs to be some type of democracy so that common people have some power in government

2018-03-21 00:52:42 UTC  

i think that version of the "tribune of the plebs" would have less power than they did in rome

2018-03-21 00:53:58 UTC  

this would limit democratic influence over most things yet still allow all citizens have some stake in the govt

2018-03-21 00:54:22 UTC  

but thats just off the top of my head

2018-03-21 00:54:41 UTC  

I've been wanting to look into Roman government to learn from their mistakes for a while but haven't gotten into it. I think American government is a fine system we have been decaying as a society

2018-03-21 00:55:12 UTC  

it was fine when we had limited franchisement

2018-03-21 00:55:45 UTC  

Yeah wasn't it land owning men back at the founding?

2018-03-21 00:55:50 UTC  

yes

2018-03-21 00:57:00 UTC  

i think in the coming years we will have a crossing the rubicon moment

2018-03-21 00:57:11 UTC  

im not really siege pilled

2018-03-21 00:58:31 UTC  

but i think we will have a sincere leader with Faustian spirit sieze control thorugh a constitutional crisis, not trump though.

2018-03-21 00:59:04 UTC  

i think we will lose 2024 then in 2028 we will win and i think thats when it will happen

2018-03-21 01:00:16 UTC  

Eh I don't see something like that happening imo. It depends on how divided the country is by that point and just how big of a crisis there will be.

2018-03-21 01:00:56 UTC  

I couldn't see something like that happening given the current lack of interest most have in politics

2018-03-21 01:03:40 UTC  

i dont know, i get kind of blackpilled sometimes about stuff, like how nobody in our government cares at all about us

2018-03-21 01:04:41 UTC  

not one

2018-03-21 01:05:36 UTC  

same. Fuentes and his America First stuff has been a whitepill for me though. Telling people to go to county GOP meetings, living good lives and starting families is the best way to turn things around.

2018-03-21 01:05:50 UTC  

If the culture can shift the politics will get better

2018-03-21 01:06:08 UTC  

Best of all it's a realistic goal

2018-03-21 01:06:29 UTC  

There's no larpy "rise up!" message

2018-03-21 01:07:07 UTC  

oh and btw all this crossing the rubicon stuff is not good optics, we should n't advocate for it at all, just a prediction about the future

2018-03-21 01:07:51 UTC  

I gotcha it's not an unreasonable prediction

2018-03-21 01:09:28 UTC  

yeah its not unreasonable to say that our current situation is not tenable, but le read siege is terrible, nobody should want a real civil war

2018-03-21 01:09:35 UTC  

it would not go as you think

2018-03-21 01:09:43 UTC  

we would just get invaded

2018-03-21 01:09:52 UTC  

the end

2018-03-21 01:10:33 UTC  

if one did start then maybe events would transpire as i described as a way to end it as quick as possible

2018-03-21 01:10:58 UTC  

Even if the balance of power were even it would be horrible

2018-03-21 01:11:43 UTC  

It may even be worst. If an actual war with modern weapons was waged in America the infrastructure would be destroyed

2018-03-21 01:11:54 UTC  

there would be no balance of power if a real open civil war started russia or china would just invade pretty quickly

2018-03-21 01:12:31 UTC  

oof well we just shitted up history chat

2018-03-21 01:12:40 UTC  

back to history

2018-03-21 01:13:57 UTC  

Would you have supported Caesar in the civil war with Pompey?

2018-03-21 01:14:11 UTC  

probably

2018-03-21 01:47:09 UTC  

The main thing is stop our New Rome sinking to the step that we have to choose between Caesar and Pompey

2018-03-21 01:47:32 UTC  

SPQR is already dead in the era of trilogy

2018-03-21 02:55:57 UTC  

@Deleted User depends on what you mean democracy

2018-03-21 02:56:14 UTC  

do you mean very limited suffrage, i.e., only a small portion of the people get to make the decisions?