Messsage from Deleted User in Nick Fuentes Server #history-server


NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:35:08  

how can you even earnestly lead a country like america and appeal to "the people" when half of them will eventually never agree with the interests of the other

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:38:14  

in recent months i have grown further and further anti democracy

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:39:36  

i think the most reasonable return into a real republic is to set maybe wealth and military service requirements for voting and serving an office

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:40:18  

this wont completely eliminate minority and women voting but will reduce it

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:40:38  

a repeal of race/gender suffrage directly would never pass for along time

BottomoftheNinth 2018-03-21 00:47:09  

The feasible way to do that is to limit the franchise to taxpayers

BottomoftheNinth 2018-03-21 00:47:19  

If you don't pay taxes you don't vote

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:47:44  

even that is too broad i think

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:47:55  

are all republics democratic?

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:47:55  

maybe certain tax brackets

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:47:58  

no

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:48:11  

democracy =/= republic

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:48:30  

republics can have democratic tendencies

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:48:38  

but are not truly democratic

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:49:19  

example?

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:52:17  

i think the ideal republic would feature a senate:
consisted of members of the highest class
voted for by the highest class and upper middle class

A sort of tribune of the plebs made up by upper middle class, voted by upper middle class and representatives from the lower classes

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:52:18  

Republic originally meant "a public matter" didn't it? There needs to be some type of democracy so that common people have some power in government

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:52:42  

i think that version of the "tribune of the plebs" would have less power than they did in rome

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:53:58  

this would limit democratic influence over most things yet still allow all citizens have some stake in the govt

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:54:22  

but thats just off the top of my head

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:54:41  

I've been wanting to look into Roman government to learn from their mistakes for a while but haven't gotten into it. I think American government is a fine system we have been decaying as a society

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:55:12  

it was fine when we had limited franchisement

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:55:45  

Yeah wasn't it land owning men back at the founding?

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:55:50  

yes

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:57:00  

i think in the coming years we will have a crossing the rubicon moment

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:57:11  

im not really siege pilled

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:58:31  

but i think we will have a sincere leader with Faustian spirit sieze control thorugh a constitutional crisis, not trump though.

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:59:04  

i think we will lose 2024 then in 2028 we will win and i think thats when it will happen

Deleted User 2018-03-21 01:00:16  

Eh I don't see something like that happening imo. It depends on how divided the country is by that point and just how big of a crisis there will be.

Deleted User 2018-03-21 01:00:56  

I couldn't see something like that happening given the current lack of interest most have in politics

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 01:03:40  

i dont know, i get kind of blackpilled sometimes about stuff, like how nobody in our government cares at all about us

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 01:04:41  

not one

Deleted User 2018-03-21 01:05:36  

same. Fuentes and his America First stuff has been a whitepill for me though. Telling people to go to county GOP meetings, living good lives and starting families is the best way to turn things around.

Deleted User 2018-03-21 01:05:50  

If the culture can shift the politics will get better

Deleted User 2018-03-21 01:06:08  

Best of all it's a realistic goal

Deleted User 2018-03-21 01:06:29  

There's no larpy "rise up!" message

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 01:07:07  

oh and btw all this crossing the rubicon stuff is not good optics, we should n't advocate for it at all, just a prediction about the future

Deleted User 2018-03-21 01:07:51  

I gotcha it's not an unreasonable prediction

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 01:09:28  

yeah its not unreasonable to say that our current situation is not tenable, but le read siege is terrible, nobody should want a real civil war

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 01:09:35  

it would not go as you think

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 01:09:43  

we would just get invaded