Message from NickTheGreek in Nick Fuentes Server #history-server

2018-03-21 00:33:23 UTC  

very frustrating to look our statesmen and politicians today, when compared to even the most mundane leaders from history, no will to truly lead

2018-03-21 00:34:03 UTC  

i think in america this problem stems from our decaying homogeneity

2018-03-21 00:35:08 UTC  

how can you even earnestly lead a country like america and appeal to "the people" when half of them will eventually never agree with the interests of the other

2018-03-21 00:38:14 UTC  

in recent months i have grown further and further anti democracy

2018-03-21 00:39:36 UTC  

i think the most reasonable return into a real republic is to set maybe wealth and military service requirements for voting and serving an office

2018-03-21 00:40:18 UTC  

this wont completely eliminate minority and women voting but will reduce it

2018-03-21 00:40:38 UTC  

a repeal of race/gender suffrage directly would never pass for along time

2018-03-21 00:47:09 UTC  

The feasible way to do that is to limit the franchise to taxpayers

2018-03-21 00:47:19 UTC  

If you don't pay taxes you don't vote

2018-03-21 00:47:44 UTC  

even that is too broad i think

2018-03-21 00:47:55 UTC  

are all republics democratic?

2018-03-21 00:47:55 UTC  

maybe certain tax brackets

2018-03-21 00:47:58 UTC  


2018-03-21 00:48:11 UTC  

democracy =/= republic

2018-03-21 00:48:30 UTC  

republics can have democratic tendencies

2018-03-21 00:48:38 UTC  

but are not truly democratic

2018-03-21 00:49:19 UTC  


2018-03-21 00:52:17 UTC  

i think the ideal republic would feature a senate:
consisted of members of the highest class
voted for by the highest class and upper middle class

A sort of tribune of the plebs made up by upper middle class, voted by upper middle class and representatives from the lower classes

2018-03-21 00:52:18 UTC  

Republic originally meant "a public matter" didn't it? There needs to be some type of democracy so that common people have some power in government

2018-03-21 00:52:42 UTC  

i think that version of the "tribune of the plebs" would have less power than they did in rome

2018-03-21 00:53:58 UTC  

this would limit democratic influence over most things yet still allow all citizens have some stake in the govt

2018-03-21 00:54:22 UTC  

but thats just off the top of my head

2018-03-21 00:54:41 UTC  

I've been wanting to look into Roman government to learn from their mistakes for a while but haven't gotten into it. I think American government is a fine system we have been decaying as a society

2018-03-21 00:55:12 UTC  

it was fine when we had limited franchisement

2018-03-21 00:55:45 UTC  

Yeah wasn't it land owning men back at the founding?

2018-03-21 00:55:50 UTC  


2018-03-21 00:57:00 UTC  

i think in the coming years we will have a crossing the rubicon moment

2018-03-21 00:57:11 UTC  

im not really siege pilled

2018-03-21 00:58:31 UTC  

but i think we will have a sincere leader with Faustian spirit sieze control thorugh a constitutional crisis, not trump though.

2018-03-21 00:59:04 UTC  

i think we will lose 2024 then in 2028 we will win and i think thats when it will happen

2018-03-21 01:00:16 UTC  

Eh I don't see something like that happening imo. It depends on how divided the country is by that point and just how big of a crisis there will be.

2018-03-21 01:00:56 UTC  

I couldn't see something like that happening given the current lack of interest most have in politics

2018-03-21 01:03:40 UTC  

i dont know, i get kind of blackpilled sometimes about stuff, like how nobody in our government cares at all about us

2018-03-21 01:04:41 UTC  

not one

2018-03-21 01:05:36 UTC  

same. Fuentes and his America First stuff has been a whitepill for me though. Telling people to go to county GOP meetings, living good lives and starting families is the best way to turn things around.

2018-03-21 01:05:50 UTC  

If the culture can shift the politics will get better

2018-03-21 01:06:08 UTC  

Best of all it's a realistic goal

2018-03-21 01:06:29 UTC  

There's no larpy "rise up!" message

2018-03-21 01:07:07 UTC  

oh and btw all this crossing the rubicon stuff is not good optics, we should n't advocate for it at all, just a prediction about the future

2018-03-21 01:07:51 UTC  

I gotcha it's not an unreasonable prediction

2018-03-21 01:09:28 UTC  

yeah its not unreasonable to say that our current situation is not tenable, but le read siege is terrible, nobody should want a real civil war