Messsage from NickTheGreek in Nick Fuentes Server #history-server


Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:46:52  

but in the end, it had to be like this

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:47:07  

i'd agree with that

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:47:21  

the countries under britain's control only remained there for so long as britain had the power to keep them

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:47:40  

as soon as british power waned every colony was pushing for independence or more autonomy

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:48:15  

it's the fault of the british government for losing the power and influence required to maintain the empire

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:48:42  

and another thing

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:49:00  

founding fathers may first identify as proud subjects of British crown

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:49:15  

but then they realize that the British tradition is corrupted

Huge Brain Oliver 2018-03-18 20:49:34  

so they decide to segregate from that

Triple Hernan 2018-03-18 20:50:26  

at least britain and america have remained allies

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:28:49  

been listening to the history of rome, fascinating stuff

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:33:23  

very frustrating to look our statesmen and politicians today, when compared to even the most mundane leaders from history, no will to truly lead

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:34:03  

i think in america this problem stems from our decaying homogeneity

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:35:08  

how can you even earnestly lead a country like america and appeal to "the people" when half of them will eventually never agree with the interests of the other

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:38:14  

in recent months i have grown further and further anti democracy

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:39:36  

i think the most reasonable return into a real republic is to set maybe wealth and military service requirements for voting and serving an office

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:40:18  

this wont completely eliminate minority and women voting but will reduce it

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:40:38  

a repeal of race/gender suffrage directly would never pass for along time

BottomoftheNinth 2018-03-21 00:47:09  

The feasible way to do that is to limit the franchise to taxpayers

BottomoftheNinth 2018-03-21 00:47:19  

If you don't pay taxes you don't vote

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:47:44  

even that is too broad i think

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:47:55  

are all republics democratic?

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:47:55  

maybe certain tax brackets

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:47:58  

no

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:48:11  

democracy =/= republic

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:48:30  

republics can have democratic tendencies

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:48:38  

but are not truly democratic

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:49:19  

example?

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:52:17  

i think the ideal republic would feature a senate:
consisted of members of the highest class
voted for by the highest class and upper middle class

A sort of tribune of the plebs made up by upper middle class, voted by upper middle class and representatives from the lower classes

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:52:18  

Republic originally meant "a public matter" didn't it? There needs to be some type of democracy so that common people have some power in government

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:52:42  

i think that version of the "tribune of the plebs" would have less power than they did in rome

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:53:58  

this would limit democratic influence over most things yet still allow all citizens have some stake in the govt

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:54:22  

but thats just off the top of my head

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:54:41  

I've been wanting to look into Roman government to learn from their mistakes for a while but haven't gotten into it. I think American government is a fine system we have been decaying as a society

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:55:12  

it was fine when we had limited franchisement

Deleted User 2018-03-21 00:55:45  

Yeah wasn't it land owning men back at the founding?

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:55:50  

yes

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:57:00  

i think in the coming years we will have a crossing the rubicon moment

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:57:11  

im not really siege pilled

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:58:31  

but i think we will have a sincere leader with Faustian spirit sieze control thorugh a constitutional crisis, not trump though.

NickTheGreek 2018-03-21 00:59:04  

i think we will lose 2024 then in 2028 we will win and i think thats when it will happen