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do you mean very limited suffrage, i.e., only a small portion of the people get to make the decisions?
I asked the question because I wanted to know if there is a republican form of government without any type suffrage
Or if all republics have some degree of democracy
The closest you can get to that is what we originally had.
White male landowners who had actual stock in the country they were voting to rule.
do what the Holy Roman empire did,
except on a much larger scale,
have inheritated positions of power which are capable of voting.
I'm asking more of a question about definition
is it possible for a republic to not have suffrage
It is not.
or would it just be an oligarchy or aristocracy
@Hektor#9849 well how do you have a legitimate transition of power
without any form of suffrage or hereditary right
trial by combat
There's a lot of nascent republics that don't have any democracy
but that seems like a transition period
i.e., the English Protectorate, the French Directory
@Hektor and even if the leader isn't elected in a republic, the legislature almost always is
@Hektor#9849 Why can't I ping you?
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@Deleted User Would they even be a republic if there isn't suffrage though? How can government be a public matter if there is no voting?
There are degrees of publicness and differences in how legitimacy is drawn
But you're right in that it's very hard to have a republic without a mechanism for public feedback
The examples I mentioned weren't monarchies
and relied on an elected legislature while not having an elected executive
I'll look into that. tbh I've never heard of something like that
my brainlet status is showing
well those republics were never intended to have an unelected executive
in fact the directory didn't even have a single chief executive, it had a board of executives
it's just that in the case of the English Protectorate, Cromwell and the New Model Army got tired of the Rump Parliament for taking too long to forge a constitution so he dismissed them
and each new attempt to convene parliament during his reign as lord protector resulted in the same deadlock
and with the French Republic and the Directory, there were elections for the directory, but suffrage was limited, and the elections were mostly rigged
then of course you had Napoleon as consul while France was still nominally a Republic
and finally here's an interesting plan: Bolivar wanted Gran Colombia to have presidents-for-life