i prefer the first edition cover

A good book, something different

https://www.amazon.com/Prohibitionists-Textbook-Comprising-Statistics-Prohibition/dp/1347711155/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

There was one point where half of the people of Ireland were teetotal

I can post sam Hyde book pdf if anyone wants it

Can someone give me the rundown on esoteric/occult lit??

@j0hn
Ashtavakra Gita (Indian)
Tao Te Ching
Zhuangzi
Lieh Tzu
Xing Yi Nei Gong
Falun Gong
Gurdjieff's 48 Exercises
Psychic Self Defense
The Doctrine of Awakening
Visual Magick
Kali Kaula
Practical Taoism
Secret Teachings of All Ages
Introduction to Magic
Revolt Against the Modern World
Ride the Tiger
A New Model of the Universe
Prometheus Rising
Low Magick
Corpus Hermeticum
Emerald Tablets of Thoth
Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson
The Fourth Way
Nag Hammadi
Astral Dynamics
Burst of Breath
Euclid's Window
Chicken Qabalah
Awakening Ground
Sefer Yetzirah
One Year Manual
Book 4 Part 1 - Mysticism
Book 4 Part 2 - Magick
Book 4 Part 3 - Magick in Theory and Practice
Book 4 Part 4 - The Law
The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic
Three Books of Occult Philosophy
The Psychick Bible
Liber Null
Condensed Chaos
Book of Lies
Book of Thoth
78 Degrees of Wisdom
The Way of the Crucible
Real Alchemy
Prime Chaos
Liber Kaos
Book of Abramelin (Dehn/Guth version *NOT* Mathers version)

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@j0hn there's everything you could possibly want on the occult/esoterica

Thank you

But I'm just wondering what it is exactly

And idk if I'm allowed to study it I'll have to ask my priest @Mephisto

Is it all based on perennialism

its definitely against the Catholic Church teaching to believe it or practice any of the rituals
If you want a tldr on it its basically heretical shit that generally involves humanity ascending to the status of a god

it depends, some of it is perennial, some of it isnt

im mostly familiar with gnosticism

Ohhh

which believes the material world was created by a Demiurge (craftsman) who was created by God. Its their equivalent of Satan.
They believe true Christianity is essentially achieving Gnosis and gaining communion with the real God (who Christ was an emanation of)

Then there's shit with demons and all of that which is common to a lot of it, and that stuff may or may not be real, I'm really not woke enough

Is there anything worth learning to a catholic/orthodox

Yea I know a little bit about Gnosticism

I haven't read most of that stuff, only very basic intro level material

The way I see it, its something you should study for fun but take all of it with a grain of salt

Its no substitute for real religion

its kind of like larpy fan fiction

I thought gnostics believe that the true god doesn't involve himself with the world or something

I think the Bible sets a good example where it has a balance of dogma, stories and esoteric symbolism. You need a little bit of each, but the Gnostics I've met get autistically fixated on the big brained stuff esoteric stuff. A pinch of it is good, too much of it is heretical/gay

Well I believe Gnosticism predates Gnostic Christianity. I imagine there are several variants of it as well.
Gnostic Christians specifically believe that Christ was an emanation of the true God, the root of all things. Other Gnostics probably don't believe in that so they might believe that the true God doesn't intervene at all

That makes sense

What's up with p*gans like styx practicing occultism

I'd be interesting to see the origins of the occult, because while a lot of it comes form Gnosticism and Kaballah and that sort of folk lore there's probably some derived from pagan elements as well and Styx would probably know about that

theres also general stuff like alchemy and hermeticism which aren't explicitly Jewish or Christian in origin

But a lot of seems to just basically be Satanism. That's what Anton Lavey the Church of Satan guy said, that basically he was the only honest new age person because he admitted it was satanism

I know Styx literally used to study this stuff as part of his career so he's probably got a pretty deep understanding of it

Yea that makes sense. Styx is a weirdo edge lord but it seems like he studies theology on an autistic level

Gnosticism is Protestantism without the book

Gnosticism is basically Christianity for hyper-individualistic edgelords who don't want to go to church

I don't think Styx is very knowledgeable about Christianity at all. He has a very basic bitch condescending understanding of it.

He's at least better than the atheist like AIU that just sit there and ask condescending questions

And then say they don't want to talk about whatever your counter point is

styx has a knowledge of ancient stuff / occult stuff and anything esoteric, I don't think he's ever studied christianity or any religion extensively, he seems like he's more into the weird/spooky stuff

I’ve seen some of his stuff on it, he definitely has